YouTube Pulls Atheist Video After Making Front Page of Digg.com

This is NOT an atheist video! It does not say anywhere that the makers don't believe in god. They simply don't believe in the one thing designed to separate man from god: religion. Religion tells you you can't communicate directly with god because you're not qualified...but if you pay an expert like a priest or mullah, then god will listen. I think religion is good! where would we be without the child molesting Catholics and baby killing Muslims? without religion eliminating over 100 million worthless lives in the last couple thousand years we would be facing over population like you wouldn't believe! hurray for religion!

I'm pretty much an agnostic, but I don't see the point of bashing religion that much. Sure, the devout ones with brainwashed children and believe in creationism are kinda annoying, but besides that, religion is fine with me.

Militant atheists are just as insufferable as religious zealots. Do onto others as you would have done on to you and don't push your beliefs onto others.

Agnostic > theist > atheist

A-theist puts theism in the drivers seat. It's an antiquated term for people who are still submerged in the crazy world of wizards and ghosts. (a perfect example below: Hunter349 uses the word 'hell' in his anti religion comment)

FYI: This video was only blocked because of the guy ramming the girl with the cross. That is the 'inappropriate content'. Remove that and the video will stay up if re-posted.

If today, everyone came to terms with there being no gods, if we all believed it, if proof was given, would war cease? No, but the foot soldiers that are fighting would. The rules would just change and new motivations would be found. The geopolitical hegemony of nations would carry on. We are pawns and we are kept in fear.
"Control the world for us. We are so scared.We will do whatever you say. Even if what you say makes us more scared."

We are all slaves to the monetary system created by men who seek control over land and man. In their bloodline control is passed down. In your bloodline slavery is passed down.

hahaha you guys crack me up seriously amusin shit! what i wanna know is WHY did they take it off. Theres way more ofensive shit simply on the new south park season man. anyway the video is about repression and only refers to one of the tols used by leaders by munipulited our thoughts/belifes and dominate our lives. Repression causes conflict... ie war. religion used to distrct the people give them something to fight for right? well clothes n fashion gives us induviduality and a sense of freedom (which isnt there) gives us a distration, Being cool is the new religion. boycott that instead of boycotting spirtiual belifes. AHAHHA religion has got so many people to kill themselfs! man the mians had people lying out for open heart suggery NO ANETHSTETIC to save the sun
SCIENCE SUPISTION buy into doomsday propaganda crap

religion has just taken a new form. It was never about believing and being good but that ok we have the power.

Even if there were a God, i still wouldn't worship it or ask it anything but i would do things to freak it out from time to time!

Atheists are just as arrogant and ignorant as Christians, because each one likes to mock the other and argue and keep on reminding them and telling them that they are wrong. If the other beliefs are wrong, then just leave it at that! Let them live in ignorance. Let them believe what they want. It doesn't affect you. No one has any proof regarding what's on the other side, if there is an other side. Religion is Pseudo Science. It can neither be proven nor disproved. Anything outside of the 4 dimensions, just like a movie, and this reality is theorized, such as string theory.

the only problem I see with your theory is that if you just ignore religious zealots, they take over and force you to convert to their religion or murder you! as a non believer I am not going to kill anyone for ignoring me so they have an inherent advantage.

Hmm, yet it will keep videos like this up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEuAVgmWt0U

Wis 11:23 But thou hast mercy upon all; for thou canst do all things, and winkest at the sins of men, because they should amend.

Wis 11:24 For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.

ETERNAL HELL FIRE IS A PAGAN MYTH.

I thought that eternal hell fire came from the Hebrew word for Hell, which is Sheol. Sheol actually means, south. Since Judaism originated in the northern hemisphere, it grew hotter and hotter the further south they went. Hence Sheol is hot.

Just my theory. And I'll readily admit to be talking out my butt on this one.

Prepare yourself, 991 years till the rapture.

I'm still trying to figure out what is so "offensive" about this video. I find it far more offensive to self-proclaimed atheists than I do to any of the "religions" they are calling out (the fact that they throw in an image of the Dao De Jing (a f'n political tract) and the "Satanic Bible" only shows me that they don't even have a clear enemy they are attacking. Unless they are attempting at attacking dogmatism, in which case they still failed, even more miserably. Anyway, although I agree withe the video in many ways, it's extremely lame, unfunny, and downright IN-offensive. Come on people, you can do better than this!

I just think this is an advertisement for church of the flying spaghetti monster, relgion + advertising = brainswaishing.

I am a devout Christian... and let me tell you Christianity has nothing to do with religion, what's religion?
I have noooo idea.

Let me tell you another thing - everything known now in terms of science and wisdom will become obsolete and new ideas terms and definitions will take there place in the future.

This is boring stuff for boring people and Yes I work in advertising and yet I brainwash people all day and I am damn proud hypocrite... and guess what I'm going to heaven!

Sounds like youtube has the same censor team yahoo has, christians.

For the, "do you believe in something just because a lot of other people do?" part, Atheism can be applied to that, too. Also, all the different religions are actually very different. I don't see how Shinto and Christianity are the same in any way. Also, Buddhism has never had a war or anything of the sort. Satanists can be classified as Atheists with a rage issue, actually, as they actually don't believe in anything supernatural or mystical, or can be considered "Pseudo Science." They believe in the idea that humans are savages and that we should let the beast inside of us be free and go ahead and be hateful and materialistic and the like. No mysticism there. At all.

Atheists are just as arrogant and ignorant as Christians, because each one likes to mock the other and argue and keep on reminding them and telling them that they are wrong. If the other beliefs are wrong, then just leave it at that! Let them live in ignorance. Let them believe what they want. It doesn't affect you. No one has any proof regarding what's on the other side, if there is an other side. Religion is Pseudo Science. It can neither be proven nor disproved. Anything outside of the 4 dimensions and this reality is theorized, such as string theory.

So shut the fuck up, because no one knows what the fuck is the truth or what is real or not. If you believe in something, fine. If you don't, fine. Live and let live. Whatever makes you happy. Now, can we all, regardless of beliefs, just shut the fuck up, already?

By the way, I'm an Agnostic, just in case anybody wanted to accuse me of being an ignorant Christian or an arrogant Atheist. I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of.

"Shut the fuck up" ? I don't see you doing that, idiot!
Just a few pionts regarding your emental-
1. Tibet monks took up guns against China years ago, idiot!
2. Live and let live? Religion does that, right? idiot!
3. Don't ever call me as ignorant as a creationist or suicide bomber! Idiot!

Please don't start talking about "faith". We all know faith is just a concept, probably invented by some long ago church council or who knows maybe an ancient gathering at the Vatican worrying about declining profits. I can almost hear them now....

Myself I don't believe anyone is wrong. Each Religion is an interpretation of the one true god based around their life and culture. All know research on the topic done by believers in different religions shows similarities between religions.
I am not an Atheist myself nor am I a Christian. Wars have been started by Man not by Religion. I see nothing wrong with Religion or in those who seek the truth. Nowhere does it say that both cannot be true.

Lastly no one can say someone is wrong if there is no proof to say that they're not.

"wars have been started by Man not Religion"
Next you'll be telling us that guns don't kill people, people do.

That's right. You can't prove there's no invisible pink unicorn in my garage, so you can't say it isn't there. You also can't say Santa, elves, fairies, dragons, etc aren't real. No proof they're not!

(Hint: If you cannot prove it exists, it is safe to say that it does not exist. Burden of proof lies with the person making a positive claim. Based on current knowledge and logic/reason, "there is probably not a god" is absolutely valid and "there is a god" is absolutely not.)

Since you state that your claim isn't a "positive" one, it must therefore be negative and antithetical. Thank you for that admission Emma. Why then should it be up to someone else to prove your contradiction has verity? Billions of creationists don't need to prove a God exists to believe in one. We simply have "faith" in things to come; like tomorrow, or next year, or an after-life, God willing. Do you not believe a new day will dawn even though you haven't seen it, or is this a misplaced belief as well?

Since you state that nothing can exist if it cannot be proven to exist, I presume you also believe that nothing dwells beyond what the world's largest telescope can see. The Hubble can view roughly 700 quintillion galaxies. (700,000,000,000,000,000)

Some scientists claim the universe to be 100 billion light years across. So is that where it all ends? If there's a brick wall beyond that, doesn't it stand to reason something must be behind it? I can't imagine any rationally thinking person denying the unknown simply because they can't see it, but of course believing that everyone thinks rationally is in itself an irrational thought. lol

Have you ever seen an alien being in real life Emma? Neither have I, but with the infinite number of planets, in the infinite number of galaxies, in the infinite numbers of universes, and in infinity itself; I think it would be illogical to think we are the only life forms in existence.

In closing, it would serve you well to check my blog regarding a certainty in life that can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt -- namely that the breast cancer industry is a fraud and responsible for causing more cancer than they'll ever cure. This is one truth that you can't afford to dismiss.

"...but with the infinite number of planets, in the infinite number of galaxies, in the infinite numbers of universes, and in infinity itself; I think it would be illogical to think we are the only life forms in existence."

On a lighter note, this actually 'proves' that none of us exist at all. Let us assume that space is truly infinite. It would stand to reason that there are an infinite number of planets in space. Since, as far as we know, there are planets in our own solar system that are not inhabited by life, that means that there is a finite number of planets with life on them.

So to find the average amount of life in the universe, one would have to divide an almost infinite number by a finite number. The result is so negligible, it 'proves' that none of use exist.

Credit due to Douglas Adams.

At the same time, "in my perception of the world, there is a god and he/she/it is a pink unicorn" is also a perfectly valid statement. Let's take a page from Bob Wilson here and replace IS statements with MAY BE statements. We'll all get along better because now we're discussing rather than preaching.

Well, sure. I am, in fact, a rather spiritual person myself. BUT it's very important that people (I include myself) not delude themselves into thinking that believing in a god or gods or pink unicorns is at all a rational or logical thing.

"I feel" rather than "there is" kills any and all debate because it pulls reason right out.

It's nice to see some fellow "fence-sitting agnostics" here, and that some of good ol' Bob Wilson's ideas are seeing use. It's okay to sit on the fence, especially when the people on both sides of the fence act like frothing-at-the-mouth nutcases.

It's awesome to me that other people see RAW as an inspiration with regard to their take on reality and the perception thereof. I was licky enough to meet the man once, and he made quite the impact on me.

I hope someday we, as humans, get some answers. I think that day will come with the second coming of Jesus Christ, but if you think differently, who am I to judge?

Above all, I'd just like some tolerance for one another. The world would be so much better if we treated others the way we want to be treated.

Thank you for showing your tolerance. It's a sorely missed commodity with the majority of Christians that I know, and that's a sad thing.

Indeed it would but not because some higher power says we should be nice to each other but because we want to be nice to each other.

I think it's funny, but I can see why they pulled it: the ass rape with a holy cross might be deemed a little inappropriate at 53 secs.

All the way back to the beginning of time there has always be the war of Good vs Evil, The Light vs The Darkness

From my research on the 22 / December the days stop becoming shorter and after 3 days on the 25 " God's Sun " rises again and the days begin to become longer again. At Easter the days become longer than the nights which is why it is celebrated.

Also, I just read babyrae's comments and I just absolutely have to point out that Youtube is a company... a company does not HAVE to post/host your video for you. If they don't like the words you use, or the pictures of someone taking a cross up the rear end, they simply should not be forced to show it. Remember that freedom of speech means Youtube can choose what to show and what not to as well.

Dustin

wow, sure sounds like he's talking about environmentalism and Obamaism.

Regardless of what you believe there are plenty of religious videos on youtube. Censoring an atheist one is a matter of intolerance. The issue here is not what the video contains, the issue is the uneven censorship

To the Atheist,

I hope you at least have the fortitude to admit that you have no foundation for which to proclaim morally correct and incorrect decisions. Which also lends itself to the fact that you should not be promoting or advocating against any other decisions that individuals may or may not make. The thought of anything else is illogical.

Dustin

i'm glad to see that someone is fighting back against those evangelicals, and i'm very disappointed in youtube. I'm so fucking sick of being told that i'm going to hell because i don't believe in an invisible person in the sky that has a fetish for watching me. Cheers to whomever made the video

*Sigh*
I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion. If they are religious or not, it's really up to them. But to criticize what someone else believes and mock them for it is just morally wrong and you should recognize that no matter what your views are about any subject...

Very True. I don't discourage people for having something to believe in. A man once said " It doesn't matter what you believe in, Just believe. " Everyone needs something to believe in even if it is themselves.

I would love to hear of some proof that a God exists. After all, the public even demands that proof be shown for something as seeming insignificant as UFO's, surely we should have some documentation for the most important subject in the whole world. Millions pray every day, wars are fought in God's name, trillions have been donated to His causes through out the ages. That last item alone would beg for some authentication otherwise some could say that a scam of unbelievable proportions (far surpassing Madof's shenanigans) has been perpetuated against mankind for over 3 millennium. Wow!, the Vatican would have to cough up some serious bucks when found guilty of fraud!

Please don't start talking about "faith". We all know faith is just a concept, probably invented by some long ago church council or who knows maybe an ancient gathering at the Vatican worrying about declining profits. I can almost hear them now....

-Cardinal #1: What are we going to do with all these people who ask questions that we have no answers for? Like, "Where is heaven?, Why doesn't God answer our prayers?, How can God allow children to be raped or murdered without doing something?, How many angels dance on the head of a pin?"

-Cardinal #2: "I know, I know!!... We'll create a new concept and call it "faith". We'll say that faith is a very holy state of being where you are perfectly willing to believe in every ridiculous and impossible thing that we tell them."

-Cardinal #1: "That's brilliant! Then we can tell them that if they don't have "faith" then they should feel guilty because they're are full of sinful thoughts and lacking in what it takes to obtain "eternity" in the kingdom of heaven! That should shut them up!"

Eternity...what a crock!

how sad u never been in touch with god.U want proof its easy justy pray to him to help u with any troubles unless u are some rich white kid. then u have no problems.but if ur not then ask him for help see if he does not help u.

How sad that as a Christian, you didn't capitalize god. Moron.

Since I wrote that first post, the "saved" have been coming out of the
woodwork to tell me how lost I am. But you are the first minority bigot to
come forward. Why don't you pray to your god to teach you to how to accept
all the races (and how to write a proper letter).

Since I wrote that first post, the "saved" have been coming out of the woodwork to tell me how lost I am. But you are the first minority bigot to come forward. Why don't you pray to your god to teach you to how to accept all the races (and how to write a proper letter).

Hey! I was just reading your little comment here, and I realized that I could probably help you. If you're looking for proof that a God exists, please, do me a favor and read the section of Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica where he in fact gives five proofs for the existence of "a God," as you say. It's pretty convincing for me, but I'm not sure you've ever actually used your brain before, so you might think its just gibberish.

Summa Theologica is old flawed logic, there is no mathematical or physical proof for the existence of 'God'.

All his arguements require faith to believe in them, there are massive assumptions in all of his arguements, mainly the assumption that god exists, which makes all his arguements invalid as he is arguing for the very existence of the thing he assumes to exist.

Aquinas basically says, you cant see god, but you can see his effects therefore he exists. That was acceptable in his day, but as time goes by, real logic and science is showing more and more of his 'effects' to actually be far more spectacular than the work of a mythical being in the 'heavens'.

If you want to believe in god then go ahead, im not going to stop you, just dont tell me that there is solid proof on the existence of god, if there wasnt then this debate wouldnt be raging on and everyone would be indoctrinated into your little club.

Thank you for being rational.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Though it has been some years, I
*have*read the Summa Theologica and I found Aquinas to be rather
persuasive. But
you have to remember that Thomas Aquinas was a Roman Catholic priest of the
Dominican order; the same order that was charged with prosecuting the
"Inquisition" by Pope Gregory IX in the 13 century. The very same time
period that Aquinas became a Dominican. So I think his opinion might be a
little tainted, don't you?
And about your last comment, " It's pretty convincing for me, but I'm not
sure you've ever actually used your brain before, so you might think its
just gibberish". Tossing insults around the internet where you can be
completely anonymous is* rude* at best and *cowardly *at worse!

I trust you won't find this comment rude or insulting Richie but it appears to me that anyone who is against Christ must therefore be the anti-Christ. Doesn't that seem logical to you?

I'm not what most would consider a devout Christian by any means, but I do have a deep spiritual awareness of a Creator God. As scripture states, we were all born in His image, and so therefore this feeling would be inherent in all. For whatever reason, some attempt to suppress it but I think they're only fooling themselves. Maybe they would rather live their lives vicariously, free of any accountability. Perhaps, like many scientists, they believe gods aren't a necessity when you can be your own.

As many have rightfully stated here, it's really all conjecture and theory. Personally, I would rather have faith that a Heavenly Father exists and an after-life in a loving and peaceful world is attainable. Unless you harbor a lot of deep-seated guilt over the way you choose to live, or you serve another entity, I can't imagine anyone turning down the opportunity to exist in such an idyllic place, however remote the possibility. A lot to gain for so little effort. If nothing else, it helps to mitigate any fear of dying you might have.

If man wasn't born from Intelligent Design, what then? Did we evolve from an ape, worm or single-celled amoeba? If that's true, why do these creatures still exist and where are the half-apes, etc. that would still be evolving? Can science explain what powers the heart muscle to pump 35 million times a year? Can it rationalize how something like the universe can be infinite when only finite things are scientifically measurable?

Some are too quick to dismiss something because it's not visible to their eyes or has no "scientific explanation". Can you see your brain waves processing the terabytes of information while you read this or the inter-action that takes place between your computer circuitry?

Einstein said himself that "the field is the sole governing agency of the particle", meaning that invisible forces are the sole governing power of the physical world, or all matter.

Many wrongfully perceive all "Christians" to be holier than thou, Bible thumping, religious zealots. Not that they don't exist but I would bet a large segment of the "spiritually awakened" who would term themselves as Christians or Creationists, have rarely stepped foot in a church.

Those who have a belief in a God Creator do not necessarily worship the false prophets that flood the airwaves, the churches and synagogues, stating they have a direct line to the Almighty and speak on His behalf -- providing you fill their coffers, of course.

The center of Christianity is the Vatican City, yet Jesus never stepped foot in Rome. Curious, is it not? He never claimed supremacy or lived in a palace or adorned himself in pompous garb or expected worshipers to bow to him like some Queen or Pope. Jesus never wailed against a wall, passed around a plate or invaded other nations because his "religion" said it was righteous.

George Bush claims to be a "Christian", yet is guilty of some of the most atrocious war crimes in history. So, is there a God we should blame for the death and destruction the ex-President caused, or should people be held accountable for the choices they make in life? God gives man free will. If you choose to take the low road on the "dark side" of the street, then so be it. Just remember, as any good scientist will tell you... "every action causes a re-action".

In the ex-President's case, he was an avowed "Skull and Bones" clansman, so it's a certainty that the God he worships isn't the same one as the majority of Christians revere. Any rationally thinking person knows that if a God does exist, He can't be both wicked and loving.

This brings me to another point where many atheists run afoul. They have the misconception that Christians follow the teachings of the Old Testament. Atheists will often quote scripture, contending that the God in it is wrathful, bloodthirsty and hypocritical. True that the God of the Old Testament bore these traits, but it is not the Christians who embrace these first five books of the Old Testament, but in fact, the Jews.

Their god is not Jesus Christ, but is known among other names as "Jehovah", "Baal", "Serpent", "Dragon", "Devil" and "Satan".

The Talmud is another of the Jews most holy books and is replete with Anti-Christian sentiment, warfare and savagery from a vengeful God, "Moloch", who the Jews even sacrificed live babies to. The phrase from their scripture, "slaughter every man, woman and child in the village", echoes the modern-day atrocities Israel has committed against the Palestinians.

Jesus, in fact, warns us of the false god and the "Synagogue of Satan" in the New Testament; the book the Christians honor and cherish. The book that speaks of the one true GOD.

Read about the rabbis who absolve their sins by spinning live chickens above their heads. Amazing how anyone could think torturing an animal in such a fashion would favour a god. But of course, we're not talking about just any god, are we?
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fo...

How about the New York gang of rabbis arrested for selling Palestinian body parts? I don't think all the chickens in the world could save these evil sob's from the hot place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipO5Zpa-Pc4&feat...

This confusion over deities is one of the deceptions that the so-called, self-styled Jews have foisted upon mankind that has been very successful in the Anti-Christ/Zionist campaign. So you can see where a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

For the most part, organized religion is a fraud and a scam created and perpetrated by man for his own vested interests. But that in itself is no grounds to dismiss the possibility of a God Creator, or discredit those who hold the belief that one could possibly exist.

Christians have faith in things that cannot be seen. Once they are realized, faith is no longer required. Therefore the onus is on you Richie to disprove God's existence. Perhaps in the process, you might gain a little faith yourself.

If more God deniers and haters spent their time and resources fighting the real source of injustice and evil in this world, instead of railing against an unknown entity, planet Earth would be a far better place to inhabit.

Peace,
Mary
http://1god1truth.blogspot.com/

"...but it appears to me that anyone who is against Christ must therefore be the anti-Christ. Doesn't that seem logical to you?"

I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic here or not, but technically, wouldn't this make Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Native Americans, and basically, the majority of the population of the world anti-Christs? Granted, most religions have names for those who are not of their own belief, Gentile, Pagan, etc., but considering everyone else as the anti-Christ... I find that to be rather scary.

"...I can't imagine anyone turning down the opportunity to exist in such an idyllic place,..."

This could probably be chalked up to being raised in the Church Of Christ (I'm no longer of the Christian faith), but I would definitely turn it down. Spending eternity praising God, bowing before him, singing his praises all the time... that's not my idea of a good time. Especially when it is thrust upon an individual. Yes, we have free will, but the Heaven has also been taught to me to be a place that we're supposed to want to go to. Why? Because God said you either do this, or you will suffer a terrible fate. Ruling by fear is not a personality trait that I can stand behind. (again, this is from my upbringing in the Bible belt).

"If that's true, why do these creatures still exist and where are the half-apes, etc. that would still be evolving?"

Umm, no. By my understanding, that's the point of evolution. Change to create a more viable species. If something doesn't work, it slowly gets weeded out of the gene pool.

Another thought on evolution is that the Bible does not say that evolution didn't happen. There is the thought that if God created the universe, and everything in it, who's to say that he didn't simply put the laws of nature in place and then initiated the Big Bang? What if God created man through evolution?

"I would bet a large segment of the "spiritually awakened" who would term themselves as Christians or Creationists, have rarely stepped foot in a church."

I agree with this 100%.

"The center of Christianity is the Vatican City..."

Really? Personally, I would think that a great deal of Protestants would disagree with that statement. Even looking at the story of Peter saying, upon this rock will I build your church (not quoting), I don't think that that took place at the location of the Vatican, but I could very well be mistaken about that.

"Any rationally thinking person knows that if a God does exist, He can't be both wicked and loving."

This is the sentence that finally decided me to comment. If you believe that God truly does exist, then you are believing in an omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful entity. This is an entity that has no boundaries. God is everywhere. God is in everything. Again, that's the way that I was raised.

If God is everything, then yes, God _must_ be both wicked and loving at the same time. Any time that you say "God can't..." you are placing limits on God. In my belief, that is something that you cannot do. The entity that most would call God, is limitless. It must be limitless. There is nothing that God can't do or be.

God is everything. Period. And by that statement, God must also be nothing at the same time. At least that's my take on it. The minute you start placing limits on God is when you've missed the point, and you do your God a grievous insult.

"...it is not the Christians who embrace these first five books of the Old Testament..."

Again, this could be simply due to my upbringing, but every Bible I've ever seen in a church, every Bible I've ever been taught anything from includes the Pentateuch; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. While I see the point you are trying to make, simply being a Christian does not mean that you turn your back on part of the Bible.

If the Bible is the inspired word of God, wouldn't not embracing these books be the same as not embracing God? Yes, I know that Christianity is based on the teachings of the New and not the Old Testament. It just doesn't seem to make sense to ignore anything that God says.

"Their god [the Jews'] is not Jesus Christ, but is known among other names as "Jehovah", "Baal", "Serpent", "Dragon", "Devil" and "Satan"."

Again, part of this comes from my religious upbringing, but also from other research I've done over the years. First off, I don't know of any Christian who believes that Jesus Christ is their God, as you imply. God is the god of Christians, and part of the trinity of entities that exist as one, and are yet separate beings; God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost/Spirit.

The God of Jewish history has many names, yes. Technically, Jehovah, is not one of them. The name of the Jewish God of the Old Testament was written as YHWH (the written Hebrew language of the time did not use vowels in written words, and the vowels needed to complete the words were implied by their context) and is the base for the name Jehovah, but Jehovah was not his name.

I'm not denying that the Jews had more than one name for their god. They did have many names for him, in fact, when reading the Hebrew version of Genesis, you will run across five different names for God, four of which show up before Cain and Able had their spat, and one of them can actually mean goddess.

However, no where in the Bible does it say that the Jews called YHWH (which is not pronounced Yaweh, by the way) Baal, Serpent, Dragon, nor Devil and Satan. In fact, the original word used for what we today view as Satan, was Ś-Ṭ-N. Again, no vowels. This word simply means adversary or opponent. In this case, someone who is against YHWH.

As far as Ba`al is concerned, there's no reason that the Jews wouldn't call YHWH Ba`al. Much in the same way that they would call YHWH (a name which was not to be spoken) Adonai, Elohim, El, El Shadai, and El Yisrael are all names for YHWH, all of which represent different aspects of YHWH. Ba`al means lord or master. Since YHWH was their lord and master, there is no reason that he wouldn't be referred to as Ba`al on occasion.

The notion though that you seem to be trying to push that the Jews called their god all the 'bad names' that Christians attribute to the Devil, that's just plain silly. If you weren't trying to say that the Jews called their god the Devil, then I apologize, and I misunderstood your intent.

"The Talmud is another of the Jews most holy books and is replete with Anti-Christian sentiment, warfare and savagery..."

Really? Is the Old Testament any different? Again, if you believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God, then you can't turn your back on parts of it. Yes, the Old Testament shows us a more vengeful, wrathful side of God. But because a people's god was mean-spirited against other religions, that's no reason to discredit their entire religion or belief system. Besides, around 500 AD, the world was still a pretty hostile place (not that it's not now).

"Jesus, in fact, warns us of the false god and the "Synagogue of Satan" in the New Testament; the book the Christians honor and cherish. The book that speaks of the one true GOD. "

Again, by your statement, you are turning away from the word of God. I understand completely that Christianity is based upon the teachings of Christ, and that he is the New Testament. I understand that Christians are no longer required to sacrifice animals for remission of their sins as it had been done in the Old Testament. But to disavow anything that God has said is to disavow God, is it not?

And as far as the New Testament being the 'book' that speaks of the one true God? First of, it's technically a book, but rather a collection of letters and testimonies, but that's simple semantics. If it's about the one true God, why does Jesus call him by a different name?

For your arguments to have merit about the Jews calling God Satan, then you must also concede that when Jesus was hanging on the cross, he called God by a different name. He used the name Eloi. Yet another name, for another aspect of God.

As far as trying to point out why the Jews are bad? You have no right to call yourself a Christian. Are Jews not people? Are Muslims not people? Buddhists? On and on and on. They are all people.

The world has grown much since the time the Bible was written. Even since the time the New Testament was written. However, in all this growth, if anything, it has taught us that we are all neighbors on this planet. And since (according to your statements) the New Testament is honored and cherished by the Christians, one would think that they would also abide by the tenets set forth therein. Namely, "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

From what you have said, you are either not a Christian (which you have already said you are not a "devout Christian"), or you must think very poorly of yourself.

"If more God deniers and haters spent their time and resources fighting the real source of injustice and evil in this world, instead of railing against an unknown entity, planet Earth would be a far better place to inhabit."

And if more Christians acted in a manner more becoming of the man they follow, the same would hold true. A man that loved everyone. That includes the Jews. That includes the Muslims. That includes, the Buddhists, the Hindi, the Zoroastrians, the pagans, the heathens, the heretics, and even the Satanists. They are all people. Jesus loved them all.

So, I must be the "anti-christ" because I don't believe that "faith" alone is enough to prostrate myself in front of a cross. What utter nonsense!! After wading thru your rambling comments the only thing I'm sure of is that you are disgustingly anti-Semitic. While you're goose-stepping around your living room, stop a minute and take your medication. I think you skipped a few doses.

Actually the Jesuits were in charge of the Inquisition. The Dominicans, "God's Soldiers", came about as a response to the Albigensian Heresy, which felt that the church and its leaders should be poor and humble. When presented with a town that was half heretic and half Catholic and impossible to separate them Dominic is said to have declared, "Kill them all. God will know his own."

I stand by what I've written. Pope Gregory IX charged the Dominicans with
prosecuting the Inquisition in the 13 century AD. The Jesuits, as a whole,
resurrected the Inquisition in the 15 Century, but the Dominicans began the
horror.

I'm not sure that opinion has anything to do with it at all, which you should know if you've read the document. It is pure logic, and he in fact confronts some of the most prevalent issues with the existence of God as the basis for his proofs. It's not like he takes any shortcuts or makes any extraneous assumptions.

I am sorry about the personal attack there. I have to admit, I did succumb to the temptation that is anonymity. I guess I was just bothered by statements like "You're are truly one of the many brainwashed." and the "re-ligious/-tarded" phrases I've been seeing all over this thread

When I said "you are truly one of the many brainwashed", I included myself
in that group. I spent my formative years at St John's Evangelical Lutheran
Church and School. I knew all three stanzas to "Rock of Ages" before I could
ride a bicycle.

We all will get a chance to see eternity, when time for us ends. Jesus died and rose again. What's exciting is there's strong evidence it's a story believed and told from the very first part of the Christian era (~30 AD). Untold thousands died defending that story. We must ask ourselves "why?". Was it for a chance to start a new religion for the gullible? No, they clearly believed it happened. I can't offer proof, but I will say, Christ was crucified, and he rose again. In that miracle God shows us something we all need, the way to our creator.

"Untold thousands died defending that story."

This doesn't sit quite right with me. If this is the case for making something true, then would it not also mean that the Muslim religion is just as valid as Christianity? Wouldn't it make the Native Americans just a right? Thousands dying for a cause does not automatically make that cause right.

Untold thousands of children believe in santa and the tooth fairy, it begs the question... why?

Answer to John

You're are truly one of the many brainwashed. Please don't take offense at that, you're just one of the millions (billions?) that have been indoctrinated since birth. I was too. Once again, where is a shred of proof? All religions are able to exist ONLY because of the concept of faith.

The idea of gods grew out of fear and ignorance in early mankind so that he could feel that he had a way of controlling the very dangerous world around him. Shamans and witch doctors capitalized on that fear and ignorance and used it to gain status and power over their fellow neighbors. The shamans propagated the belief that they could act as an advocate or go-between for the tribe with the gods. And there is the beginning of religions. Once the priest cult had the power, they were never going to let it go.

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all grew out of the Egyptian concept of the "One God". The Pharaoh Akhenaten, sometimes called the Heretic Pharaoh for his actions, established the earliest mention of a religion based on a single deity.The early Israelis likely brought this out of Egypt during the Exodus and eventually Jesus came into the picture.

You say that Jesus was the human son of a god, who died and came back to life! A statement like that begs for some kind of proof above and beyond "faith".

I am an atheist, but this video is condescending. Yes, religion is crazy for atheists, but i respect that others belive. We can never be sure if the world would be a better place without religion. Whithout religion and belief, many honest and good-hearted people wouldent be as good.

Wow I'm sure glad we live in a country that doesn't impose ridiculous censorship on us! *sarcasm* WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION???! I demand a refund...

We can get refunded? They paid me to be here.

Yeah, but getting the refund is a pain in the a** anyways. You have submit everything in triplicate and wait 6 to 8 weeks for a response... I guess I'll just laugh at this video and burn in hell. So much more simple.

I (a christian) don't go around making fun of people's beliefs (or the lack there of). You are the equivalent of that crazy chrisitan lady we all know that tells people they should believe.

isnt it your responsibility as a Christian to spread the Word. I believe it is my place, as a sane, rational person, to tell people that believe in an invisible sky-dwelling rage-a-holic, that they are being foolish.

no it isn't my responsibility to spread the word. Spreading the word is what starts holy wars. Also I am sane AND rational, thank you.

The world would be a lot better if everyone just admitted that no one knows whats going on. We we are animals, we became self aware of that at some point and were like "what the fuck is this shit?" , then some people started making up stories to explain things. The end, that's it. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.

You obviously didn't read the bible. We were never animals. LMAO

Are you serious? There are classes of animals called mammals we fall into that class. Look it up

this video is ideotic and full of crap, i dont belong to any particular religion but people beliving in something devine has been part of our nature since the begining of reason

Not sure what everyone is up-in-arms about, I can't see this video influencing anyone. It's silly and not even particularly funny though I'm sure the makers though so. Looking at the maturity of the content I'm sure it was made by a bunch of teenage boys strictly for shock value.

What did surprise me were some of the comments on here. Both atheists and theists seem to adhere to the same dogmatic and yes fundamentalist extremism only they are lined up on opposite ends of the room.

Oh dear me I hope this stupid "atheists and theists are basically the same" bullshit is just a fad.

Atheism is the absence of dogma and fundamentalism, you moron.

Any of you good god-fearing folk know the difference between a condescending atheist and a condescending theist? Go ahead, I'll give you a minute to think about it...

...

The condescending atheist doesn't think their ideological opponent will suffer eternal hellfire for disagreeing with them. We just think you're, y'know, gullible.

And believing that nothing made everything makes you smarter than the rest of us? lol
Take the test and find out what a mind slave you've been.
http://www.naturalnews.com/gullibility.html

By the way, I don't fear God but I'll bet you do. Either that or you fear that if a God does exist, then so must a Devil. I'd wager that's the dirty little secret most atheists are too afraid to admit.

Cool test, but pretty easy to ace ... I got 100% Free Thinker, simply by answering the way that each question was obviously pointing.

The dirty secret that most atheists are afraid to admit is that atheism is a belief system like any other. It happens to be based on rationalism and science -- or more precisely, a misunderstanding of science -- which makes it a little less outwardly absurd than most religions. But in the end, by forgetting the core principle of science (Model Agnosticism, aka the Scientific Method), it's just as susceptible to the pitfalls that all religions fall into: stagnation, dogma, myopia, intolerance, and hubris.

"atheism is a belief system "

How so?

Personally, any code of conduct, or way of life/thinking is comparable to a belief system. All belief systems should be a way of life, too. But that's just my opinion. (And no, I'm not an atheist.)

hmm my computer wont upload it. well its interesting to know that my computer is a catholic.
but i will look so i can see it.

So how many laptops has your computer had, then?

*This joke is meant to be funny, and not mocking any person, belief system, or wombats.

God help them, and hand out the halucinogens

I thought it was funny but true . nothing offensive as far as I can see .

Where's the video:(

It's logical YouTube didn't notice it until it started getting heavy traffic. Maybe they would have removed it before that time had they come across it.

Pulling this video was probably a really great way of making certain that everyone would see it.

Religion is about control. Thats why in the dark ages they killed anyone who didn't believe. It was written by the same people who gave us our governments and school systems and has been amended twice so far as I'm aware.

It's actually not...you can believe what you want, but you should actually go to a service before you generalize it like that.

I have actually been to many services but I am also one not to give faith without proof. I'm a historian and other than the bible no historians from the same period mention anything about jesus. Some can say that by me researching religion denies faith but I see it as a search for truth not a lack of faith. At this point Evolution has been proven and " God " has been recorded back as far as 10,000 BC.

I thought that there was at least a mention of Jesus in Josephus? And if there was, I'm not even sure that that was written until after 33 CE.

Not against you on this one, just curious about the information that I think I 'know'.

Makes you wonder what *else* YouTube has censored.

Amen to that
Religon causes conflict

Uh...Matt, people desiring domination cause conflicts. That could include everyone, religious or not. The question is, what system of belief explains the world as it is the best? The odds-on favorite, as far as I can tell, is Christianity.

SCIENCE: That is the Religion that best explains the world as it is, was, and will be- MARK IT, DUDE!

Thats just ridiculous, how can you say christianity explains the world best?? Take a good unbiased look at the logical arguments of Evolution vs Christanity; evolution has a plausible explanation, backed up with solid evidence (eg. fossils), Christianity is only based on (circular) stories and assumptions, and has no solid evidence - "some guy saw someone who looked like that guy's idea of jesus in a dream one night" is /not/ proof.

Absolutely correct!! Nothing created everything. BTW, where in the fossil record have they ever found any transitional species?

EVERYWHERE. What the hell are you defining as a "transitional fossil" that makes you reject every single existing one?
I'm not even going into the fact that every fossil is, in a way, "transitional", because every species is in a state of transition - some stay pretty much the same for long periods of time, because whatever they were doing works well enough for them, while some don't stay the same long enough to warrant a species designation.
And biological evolution itself has nothing to do with the genesis of life. It merely describes the way a number of tiny changes build up over time into large changes, until the current creature is vastly different from its ancestor, and how diverging lines can create new species... or sometimes just dead ends.

christianity does not explain anything. it is just a story that circles around itself, it is logically cirular... not much in stuff like that. moby dick explains the world just as well... :D

and yes, domination causes conflict. history shows that religious people were the keenest when it comes to domination...

Well I'm don't think the video is that great but the message still holds. I can't call myself an aethiest as I don't believe I'm disbelieving anything just because others believe it. People can't say that I'm wrong cause they believe in something else. Most wars have been about religion. Anyone who kills in the name of god is a murderer. And Christians keep making up excuses for scientific fact.

This is why YouTube won't last for the truly inspired: They pull EVERYTHING that's decent. My version of the internet: What's put on the net STAYS on the net. I grew up having TV content CENSORED by large companys who take the presumptuous stance that THEY know whats good content....for me !? Please excuse the following, but FUCK YOU! This is yet another example that if you think you're free: You're not! The religious types will ALWAYS try this Orwellian maneuver: If they don't like it--REMOVE IT, then it's like it never happened.
YouTube, You're failing. You really are. If you continue to let giant corps. and the religious, set your tone, then people will stop listening to you- except all the idiots who NEED to up-load home movies of their cats running up and down the stairs. Oh, by the way, just for giggles: go to YouTube, punch in "lady gets stoned to death". When you do you'll be treated to the Muslim way of counteracting feminism. Which is OK to stay, because apparently it has nothing to do with the Nobel Christian faith

I agree with your point, but I'm still of the opinion that the viewer should at least know what they're getting into. Pretty much like the difference between network television and premium cable channels.

And I definitely agree that violent material should be treated the same as sexual material, and vice versa. Each can be just as despicable as the other, as well as just as funny as the other.

that video is boring as shit. i'm undecided as to my religion, but youtube did the right thing. pulled that video because it fucking sucked. and "tens of thousands of views" isn't really that much on youtube.

if they deleted everything that sucked there would not be much left... least freedom of expression...

good point

So, the slide with a ball-gagged man being buggered with a crucifix cock is what actually sent this video into YouTube exile?

I'm with Name. Kill that slide and repost it – the rest of the video is pretty good.

youtube pulled this idiotic nonsense? think for yourself as long as you don't choose to think in a way we find stupid.

american christians and american atheists: mirror images of one another.

pwned

Not funny.

I mean, true, but not very funny, maybe it was pulled because it sucked? Someone needs to rally the atheist comedians to create something that causes laughter instead of provoking bore dumb.

Well, YouTube can get off on a technicality...there was a quick flash of implied sodomy. I'm sure that's the official reason.

I fucking love it. I am a Druid and don't believe in that shit depicted. Thanks for making that so funny. I posted it on my face book :D

a druid? what level?

lol I just pee'd my pants a little

lol

This video makes me embarrassed to be an atheist.

most atheists make me embarrassed to be an atheist. they're so god damn condescending.

Im embarrassed that you're an atheist.

I dont really see why, sure its a shocking generalisation, but when you think of it as applied to the people who /are/ like the video describes, then its pretty funny. Also, what about all the religious people damning atheists to hell? Those arent even humorous, they are just downright, well...damning, which I think is just extreme. I am atheist, but I totally accept, and even support theists who believe in honest, good 'commandments' (using the christian term).
If they are kind, genuine people, that do not impose their faith unfairly on other people, and if their religion makes them happy, then I have no bad feeling towards them, even if I dont share their belief.
On the other hand, if they stick zealously to things that are clearly morally wrong, or if they force themselves and their faith on others, or if they use faith to manipulate others for their own purposes, then I have little respect for their religion, and find ridiculing it pretty funny to be honest.

For the record, not everything I wrote was necessarily a reply to what you wrote. I just got a little carried away :)

Hey, I'm not saying I endorse fundamentalists and religious types who condemn atheists to hell. Narrow mindedness exists on both sides. Now, I don't know where you're from, but if you're American I see what you mean. There seems to be a lot more fundamentalist christians there than where I live (Norway). At least they make a lot more noise over there :) Here, the public debate is more balanced. I even get the impression it's slightly slanted towards the atheist side.

And I don't find the video particularly "shocking". For the record, I don't principally have anything against making fun of religion, and definitively not criticizing it. Life of Brian is one of my favorite movies! But almost all the points made in this video are just superficial observations. Life of Brian was funny because the people who made it actually knew a lot about religion, and based on that, ridiculed a lot of the absurdity inherent in religion. It's good because it means they've actually dug deeper than the surface, and that can make even religious people think. This video just preaches to the masses. Aren't atheists supposed to be more enlightened than religious people? This video just lowers them to the same level as a lot of religious people. Also, I realize it's a little unfair to compare this short video to Monty Pythons Life of Brian, but I hope you get my point :)

Religion has been the cause (or has at least had a pivotal role) in a lot of atrocities throughout time. But religion has also introduced a lot of the moral and philosophical ideas that we have today, and has helped shape society into what it is, for better or worse. It's such a central part of our history that we can't look at religion without acknowledging how intertwined it is in our lives, whether or not we believe in anything. In many ways, religion is a reflection of the human race, its aspirations and its weaknesses.

Now, I was raised in a liberal catholic family (insert pedophile priest jokes here) in Norway. I've seen how positive religion can be for people, how the church community helped new immigrants settle into a new country, I've seen the unity and goodwill among people, and I know for a fact how calming and meditative going to mass can be, even though I have no personal relationship to God. By saying this I don't mean that the only way to be a good person is by being religious. In fact, I think a lot of atheists live more "christian lives" than what a lot of christians do. It's more about your personal moral compass than what god you bow before.

Personally I became an atheist because I, first of all, don't "feel" God, and I'm not going to trick myself into believing I do. Second, I think in many ways the "search" for God is irrelevant as to whether or not you live a good life. Religion can help your moral compass, but in the end, you're the only one responsible for your actions. So I'll live my life the way I see fit, and if I end up in hell when I'm dead, at least I was true to myself.

Anyway, believe what you want to believe, but if you're going to hate it do research about it.

really? Maybe you should check if you are an atheist... I mean, c'mon, religious people are funny, and nothing wrong with pointing out the idiocy!? :)

Alex, I am a Christian, but I can actually respect you as an atheist for not appreciating this video. I hate condescending videos like these, as well as the sort of christian videos like say, jesus camp, and the religious hate videos. We need to stop attacking the extremes and actually engage eachother in intellectual dialogue.

now there is one (1) video like this and you start crying bout it... there a zillions of christian and muslim videos ridiculing atheist or the laws of evolution- and usually they are not as funny because you guys even mean all your hate speach... we just mock you a bit... not the same as the scary shit you do...

How can one engage in an intelligent discussion of faith, when faith has nothing to do with intelligence, and is by definition, belief without proof. Where is the discussion going to take place? Between your "It doesn't matter, I believe." and their "It doesn't matter, there's no proof."?

Intelligent people wouldn't bother discussing something that is obviously going to end in a stalemate.

Well, one can have an intelligent discussion, but it depends on what each side tries to achieve from the discussion.

"How can one engage in an intelligent discussion of faith, when faith has nothing to do with intelligence, and is by definition, belief without proof."
You mean like evolution?

Dude, don't go there... now you're making me embarrassed for being raised in a christian family.

I was raised in a Christian family. Honestly, I'm not embarrassed by it at all. Granted, my parents were a bit more open minded when it came to things like evolution (Who are we to say that when God created the world, he didn't just do it with a big band, and let nature follow the laws and orders he put in place?)

As a kid, church taught me respect for my elders, general manners, kept me from drinking until I was 21 (but I think that was more with the nasty (at the time) taste of beer), and many other beneficial things. I was also encouraged to study other religions, though, as well. Almost in a know your enemy way, but not as hateful. Just so I could carry on a rational, informed conversation with someone from another faith.

So, in my opinion, being raised by a Christian family, or any other faith system with a decent set of morals, is a good thing for children. Once they're old enough to decide for themselves what they believe, then have faith in them to choose what's right for them.

Haha good one. There totally isn't proof for evolution. It's just a theory right? *sarcasm*

the video is a condescending and patronizing piece of crap anyway.
it contributes nothing.

everything contributes. Thats what is referred to as relativistic position. You dont have a place to say whether or not it is contributing anything to anyone other than yourself.

yes it does! I contributes Patronization and Condesendation.... hahaha...

Take out the sodomizing cartoon and repost it to youtube. I'd be curious to see if they still take it down.

What? That's the best part of the movie dude! What are you... a homophobe? A queer hater??
You can't stop progress Bucko --- just look how we've infiltrated your schools and children's minds. They certainly won't grow up to be religious wackos who won't tolerate the sexuality of others.

This is a hateful site I'm linking to but it shows what great educational tools we can offer to the educational resources of the school system. Bigots and God-freaks like yourself would no doubt disagree.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/h...

No homophobe here, but I can at least see where they were coming from... kinda'. It's not that I have a problem with that image, it's having that image being thrust upon another person (pun not really intended) who wasn't expected something that 'extreme'.

I would compare it to, airing a very inappropriate for children show at five in the afternoon. If a person doesn't want to expose themselves to that sort of thing that's fine. If a Christian turns on ABC during prime time, they've got an idea of what they'll see and that there probably won't be anything too terribly offensive to them on.

However, if they flip it over to FX, they know what they're getting themselves into. They're expecting to hear a few 'shits' now and then. But to randomly throw a 'shit' into ... I don't know, "American Idol" or something like that, that's not fair to the viewer.

Granted, the viewer of the video has a pretty good idea as to what he's getting into, but the image that the video was pulled for crosses over the line a little bit. Given that YouTube has a guide as to what they will and will not allow to be posted, I think they were within their rights to pull it. Not in a censorship kind of way, but in a 'we're trying to be closer to PG-13 than to an R rated website'.

I hope that makes sense.

they should show this in school for ''educational purposes''

YES! Finally someone recognizes us Satanists. All I ever wanted was to be included when people made religious jokes, and the makers of this video have finally done that. Thank you.

Yes, I only wish the rest of the demon worshiping atheists would come out of their unholy closets and join the fray. So what if we lose in the end guys... till then it's gonna be one hell of a party!!
Queers rule!!!

LOL, Hippie with a crucifix phallus engaged in BSM.

Aren't you easily amused? That must be quite the sense of humor you possess.

Youtube should have left it there. Very good example of the shallowness of fundamentalist atheism.

First of all, this is not about atheism, it's about religion. KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. Religion is a crutch for people who can't think for themselves and can't accept anything else. However, most religious are trapped at birth and are not really given a chance, so they can grow up and teach their kids the same bs. We are all given an extremely powerful tool, a brain, use it. But don't worry this is just god testing your faith.

wow you dont realise the giant hypocrisy in that statement there is no such thing as a fundamentalist atheist.

its an oxymoron you fool.

if you need help understanding why...

fundamentalism |ˌfəndəˈmentlˌizəm|
noun
a form of Protestant Christianity that upholds belief in the strict and literal interpretation of the Bible, including its narratives, doctrines, prophecies, and moral laws.
• strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion or ideology, notably Islam.

Actually, the concept of "fundamentalist" as it applies to modern language is pretty relevent here.

It basically means "I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm going to mock and insult and attack you for this position."

Bro that video is part of the giant fundamentalist atheist conspiracy to impose their dogma of reality and thinking for yourself.

Everyone knows that it's actually Christians that are the repressed minority in this country, under constant attack by the countless Godless zealots. You can't believe statistics and scientists and all that.

You know, if Christians in America were treated fairly by the psychiatric field, they'd all be locked up in nut houses. It's okay if God talks to you, but if you hear voices, forget it.

But that's not how you treat repressed minorities, now is it? :^)

"You can't believe statistics and scientists and all that"

outstanding! :D
You can't go around believing facts or anything, that might upset our preconceptions.

You are implying faith and reason are opposites. They are not. The opposite of faith is disbelief. Science is not incompatible with a belief in God. Most of the science we have come to respect from our past has come from theist scientists.

hahaha "theist scientist", great oxymoron, man! that is like "meat eating vegetarian" or "smart dumbass"! hahaha...

And "science not incompatible with a belief in god"... hehehe, Thanks for the sarcasm bro!

You guys crack me up! I almost feel sorry for these moronic re-ligious/-tards... :D

Dude, please stop embarrassing yourself. Ever heard of Gregor Mendel? The father of modern genetics? Augustinian monk. Maybe you've heard of Isaac Newton? Also believed in a higher being, if not the Catholic God. I do wish that you would do some research before making sweeping generalizations. Oh, wait, I forgot, you atheists are too close-minded to even consider that you don't know everything about everything, so there would be no point for you. Oh well.

Bullshit. I know someone who believes in god and he is in CERN right now working with an international group of phicists

Which God, because there is obviously more than one. Israel says it's their religious right to invade another nation, murder innocent children and keep the inhabitants in prison camps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIH9QgUEWJg

Is his name Leonardo Vetra?

no. he's not in cern right now tho, he was just there.

Hahahaha "fundamentalist atheism"

good one, dude. excellent parody of religious/retarded people