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Fascism by the Numbers

Posted by klintron on September 30, 2009

Klint Finley, Mutate:

As a follow-up to my recent post Is It Too Late to Stop Fascism in the US?, I worked from the definition of fascism proposed by Robert Paxton.

There are several other definitions of fascism, many of which are listed on the Wikipedia entry Definitions of Fascism. I’ve decided to go through the definitions that include specific lists of criteria and see which of them the United States fits.

I’ve made the case before that when Ronald Reagan signed the Military Cooperation with Law Enforcement Officials Act, he was quietly declaring martial law and creating a police state (and that the US has never really lived up to its liberal democratic ideals). I’m sure those with more knowledge of the right-wing populist movement of the 70s that culminated in Reagan’s election and with the Reagan administration itself could make the case that fascism, under many standard definitions, actually started then. I have more knowledge of the conteporary politics, so I’m focused mostly on the actions of the Bush administration, and to a lesser extent, the Obama administration.

I should also note that by the definition many of the pro-capitalist right wing definitions of fascism, which essentially equate fascism with the left, the entire world is fascist and the US was has been fascist at least since the New Deal. Still, I focus here on elements from contemporary America. For the most part, I’m considering business interests (especially Wall Street), right wing media (especially Fox News and talk radio pundits), the “Tea Party” Movement, the Republican Party, and to a lesser extent the Democratic Party to be one loosely connected coalition (even though some of them often fight amongst themselves).

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  • The main reasons I focused more on Bush than Obama:

    1. I had 8 years of Bush material to draw on, and just under 10 months of Obama material to draw on. (And really, most of what he's doing is continuing Bush's policies)
    2. The GOP is acting in open collusion with the right-wing media and the tea baggers, while the Democrats act as the GOP's "good cops" for liberals and centrists.
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    Absolutely. Who was Obama's foreign policy advisor during the election campaign? Zbigniew Brzenski, a nice contrast to McCain's foreign policy advisor, who happened to be Henry Kissinger. That should have made it plain to everyone exactly what was going on. Democrat/Republican = Good Cop/Bad Cop. Either way, its still a cop's game.

    Not sure what the antidote is, however I don't think fascism could be universal in the US. We are simply too big a country, and there are plenty of communities where resistance would be very strong and vocal. Just as there are plenty where it would be openly embraced. Maybe secession would become a realistic option, who knows?

    Question of the day: Who benefits when we're all at each other's throats?
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    All sounds very good and accurate Mr.D, in my humble opinion. Would suggest that MORE and not less attention should be paid to the actions of the Obama regime, mostly because his is the current occupying force that WE are allowed to see govern US.

    Keep fighting for the TROOTH sir!!
    Sincerely, BootBoi.
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