Comments on: The Reality of The Economic Crisis http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/ alternative views, news & information—online, video and print Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:34:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: z0iid http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-5996 z0iid Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:14:13 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-5996 i agree with most of what you posted. but yo - move away from the coast. and the rest of us will welcome you to the real world. I live in Boulder County, Colorado - also very expensive. But I pay $500/month for a 500sq ft studio. And that is expensive here. Houses are finally coming down to mid 100's for 3/4 bedroom places. I'm in the market to actually buy now. I never went to college. I'm a computer nerd. I don't even make 75k/year. <---But, I still make within 5% of the most I ever made while living in California. So yes, while the system does need a complete overhaul - when you complain about paying $1000 - it is time for YOU to make a change and.... move. i agree with most of what you posted. but yo – move away from the coast. and the rest of us will welcome you to the real world. I live in Boulder County, Colorado – also very expensive. But I pay $500/month for a 500sq ft studio. And that is expensive here. Houses are finally coming down to mid 100's for 3/4 bedroom places. I'm in the market to actually buy now. I never went to college. I'm a computer nerd. I don't even make 75k/year. <—But, I still make within 5% of the most I ever made while living in California. So yes, while the system does need a complete overhaul – when you complain about paying $1000 – it is time for YOU to make a change and…. move.

]]> By: Not Buying Anything http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-4564 Not Buying Anything Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:04:02 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-4564 Great post, and so painfully true. 99% of us are getting royally screwed for the benefit of the top 1%. Our politicians are part of the problem. My solution was to quit my job, quit the big city, and move to a beautiful rural location. Now at least when I can't afford to do anything in the money-based economy I still have abundant nature and peace and quiet surrounding me. I have drastically lowered my expectations, and am happier with less. The only viable solutions will come from the people after we wake up from our consumer orgy with one hell of a hangover, and say, "Fuck you, we won't do what you tell us to". Then we can work on becoming self-sufficient, strong, and cooperative as we help each other create a more sane existence that reflects our needs, not the needs of big-bonus execs. Great post, and so painfully true. 99% of us are getting royally screwed for the benefit of the top 1%. Our politicians are part of the problem. My solution was to quit my job, quit the big city, and move to a beautiful rural location. Now at least when I can't afford to do anything in the money-based economy I still have abundant nature and peace and quiet surrounding me. I have drastically lowered my expectations, and am happier with less. The only viable solutions will come from the people after we wake up from our consumer orgy with one hell of a hangover, and say, “Fuck you, we won't do what you tell us to”. Then we can work on becoming self-sufficient, strong, and cooperative as we help each other create a more sane existence that reflects our needs, not the needs of big-bonus execs.

]]> By: overdramatic_anonymous_person http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-4553 overdramatic_anonymous_person Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:43:57 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-4553 well said danny, and this is something that needs to be said more often...drilled into the heads of everyone on the planet that doesnt already know that money isn't real and isn't necessary for people to live...sadly for the people barely hanging on its going to get a lot worse before it gets better, i think. I'd love to believe we can as a species even begin to address the problems we're having and facing by our dependence on money...its not just the distribution of wealth but the distribution of resources and the fact that the world has become too specialized and limited in what is available in most places people live to support the basic needs of the people that live there.<br><br>the best solutions people are offering here (which are vastly better solutions than bailouts and the like) are steps backwards...going back towards a barter system being self sufficient smaller communities likely wont be feasible without knocking off a big chunk of the globes population...<br><br>we need a paradigm shift and we need it now, or most of us may as well bend over and kiss our asses goodbye cause we are scheduled to be phased out. well said danny, and this is something that needs to be said more often…drilled into the heads of everyone on the planet that doesnt already know that money isn't real and isn't necessary for people to live…sadly for the people barely hanging on its going to get a lot worse before it gets better, i think. I'd love to believe we can as a species even begin to address the problems we're having and facing by our dependence on money…its not just the distribution of wealth but the distribution of resources and the fact that the world has become too specialized and limited in what is available in most places people live to support the basic needs of the people that live there.

the best solutions people are offering here (which are vastly better solutions than bailouts and the like) are steps backwards…going back towards a barter system being self sufficient smaller communities likely wont be feasible without knocking off a big chunk of the globes population…

we need a paradigm shift and we need it now, or most of us may as well bend over and kiss our asses goodbye cause we are scheduled to be phased out.

]]> By: Kay O. Sweaver http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-4519 Kay O. Sweaver Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:56:48 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-4519 I'm sorry middle class but if you have an iPhone, an SUV, a 3000sqft home and a 42" flatscreen HDTV its your own damn fault you can't pay your bills. The system gets you if you buy into it.<br><br>You went to college? Great. Remember how you got by on pennies a day? Yeah... Save up money. Invest in yourself and your community. Drop off the grid. You don't NEED THEM. I'm sorry middle class but if you have an iPhone, an SUV, a 3000sqft home and a 42″ flatscreen HDTV its your own damn fault you can't pay your bills. The system gets you if you buy into it.

You went to college? Great. Remember how you got by on pennies a day? Yeah… Save up money. Invest in yourself and your community. Drop off the grid. You don't NEED THEM.

]]> By: girlmachine http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-4508 girlmachine Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:23:48 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-4508 Let's all sell our cars, move back to the cities, and establish local currencies. Relearn the meaning of the word "community," and the responsibilities that entails. That's my plan anyways, but it will work a lot better if others are doing it, too. I see it happening a little here in Los Angeles. Santa Monica has a local currency now, as do other metropolitan areas. It's a good start! Let's all sell our cars, move back to the cities, and establish local currencies. Relearn the meaning of the word “community,” and the responsibilities that entails. That's my plan anyways, but it will work a lot better if others are doing it, too. I see it happening a little here in Los Angeles. Santa Monica has a local currency now, as do other metropolitan areas. It's a good start!

]]> By: girlmachine http://www.disinfo.com/2009/12/the-reality-of-the-economic-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-4506 girlmachine Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:23:48 +0000 http://www.disinfo.com/?p=17991#comment-4506 Let's all sell our cars, move back to the cities, and establish local currencies. Relearn the meaning of the word "community," and the responsibilities that entails. That's my plan anyways, but it will work a lot better if others are doing it, too. I see it happening a little here in Los Angeles. Santa Monica has a local currency now, as do other metropolitan areas. It's a good start! Let's all sell our cars, move back to the cities, and establish local currencies. Relearn the meaning of the word “community,” and the responsibilities that entails. That's my plan anyways, but it will work a lot better if others are doing it, too. I see it happening a little here in Los Angeles. Santa Monica has a local currency now, as do other metropolitan areas. It's a good start!

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