Veterans Group Calls On Soldiers to Refuse Orders to Deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq

Posted by Raymond on December 16, 2009

From Truthout:

In response to President Barack Obama’s announcement on December 1 to deploy 30,000 additional troops to the occupation of Afghanistan, the organization March Forward!, comprising both veterans and active-duty members of the US military, has called on all soldiers to refuse their orders to deploy.

“March Forward! calls on all service members to refuse orders to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq,” reads a press release from the group from December 3. “We offer our unconditional support and solidarity. Join us in the fight to ensure that no more soldiers or civilians lose their lives in these criminal wars.”

Michael Prysner, a former corporal in the Army who served from 2001-2005 and a veteran of the occupation of Iraq, co-founded the group with another Iraq war veteran, James Circello.

Truthout asked Prysner how he responds to those who believe a soldier should always follow orders, no matter what.

[Read more at Truthout]

Posted in: Activism, Afghanistan, Alternatives, Government, Iraq, War On Terror

Curt

What ever happened to verify? When you join the military you mouth an oath to the constitution of the United states unfourtunately this is a mere formality these days of empty and useless words. From the top brass on down its CYA we are the police force for China everyone knows they own us so whats the mystery. When we collapse the chinese will move on the middle East with a vengance while the russians try an move on the chinese we are in over our heads due to an abysmal lake of leadership somebody needs to have the courage to hit the restart button if you can find it.

I AdaM

Welcome to the DAWN of our new "green" communist "democratic" dictatorship.

GoodDoktorBad

Let this kind of "cowardice" be the "new Honor".

Gregory

Why didn't they protest during the previous administration? This is another anti-Obama deal. Like the group out in Utah comprised of policemen, vets, etc who refuse to take the oath of allegiance to the president alla sudden.

girlmachine

they're communists. not strictly anti-Obama, but anti-capitalism and anyone who stands for it. They did protest during the last administration, consistently, under different names. It's just that as the group gets larger, they are able to form more of these offshoot groups attacking more specific concerns. I'm not familiar with the group you speak of, but from what it sounds like, these guys are quite different.

I AdaM

Hey, you ditz. This country has already adopted the Ten Planks of Communism. Go read a history book before you start spewing your uninformed, mislead, parroted rhetoric

girlmachine

huh? how was I spewing uninformed rhetoric? I was speaking about this group, March Forward, and the coalition of which they are a branch of, ANSWER. My rhetoric in regard to that is very much informed and accurate, because I know them and used to work with them, as a member of their political party, the Party for Socialism and Liberation. And yeah, I've read plenty of history books, but thanks for the suggestion.

gulfwarvet

I was a medic in the first war in Iraq (1990-91) and saw first hand what we do to largely civilian convoys out of Kuwait--firebomb them! I had to clean up the mess left by the terrorists in the sky (US Air Force) and it has messed up my head. We need to end this madness and understand the old adage: "Violence begets violence." The best way to defend ourselves from foriegn threats is to stop meddling in their countries and terrorizing their populations into siding with the assholes on the other side of the battlefield--Jihadists.

I AdaM

It is not WE the peasants terrorizing & meddling with other peasants it is the parasitic but inherent side effects ("THEM") of our own OBSOLETE monetary economic existence. Monetary economics requires scarcity all aberrant behavior follows. Resource Based Economy or something better (like raising the intelligence of Earth's population to become self-governing and work toward mutuality beneficial common goals thus living life to its fullest, I digress this would take to much time, people would first have to be able to take themselves out of mere day-to-day survival, then make the choice the raise their intelligence, & lastly begin to raise their intelligence, but we don't have that kind of time with the path we are on) will set free ALL peoples and their planet.... or Technological Singularity which ever one comes first... or annihilation of existential reality.

Word Eater

Well, good luck with that.

I applaud the sentiment, but understand that the same people who joined the military out of necessity and not patriotism are the same people who will meekly go along with whatever they are told to do because they cannot afford to suffer the alternative.

girlmachine

Hey, I know that guy! Prysner, I used to work with him when I was organizing for the ANSWER Coalition... Good people, they are. Prysner, himself, is like a one-man army, becoming an outspoken leader in the anti-war movement, and leading aid missions in Palestine. I have no doubt his name will be in future history books.

I cannot imagine anything more spectacular than a mass laying-down-of-arms of all American service men and women. What a glorious day that would be. If only...

J.

There is no "Palestine." It is called ISRAEL, you imbecile.

girlmachine

oh, wow. thanks for sorting me out. I'm always getting those two confused.

I AdaM

Their is no honor in war.

Sean

true, but there is honor in men, to abandon an oath is the act of a coward,
one who would do so can't be relied on for anything, how do you build a movement on men who would abandon their word on a whim?

I AdaM

And what of those first oaths to our vary well thought out and vary well neglected Constitution? Vanity & ignorance must and will sacrificed. What do I think of humanity?... Well, I think it would be a good idea.

Sean

why people join has no bearing on weather or not they are bound by their oaths.
casting honor aside is no way to improve the world.

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