Banned Mormon Cartoon?

I have to call BS on you Jordan. If you really knew all about being a Mormon, you would never have said “their bible.” Mormon's use the same Bible as every other Christian religion–the King James version, because it is most widely accepted as a correct translation. I think you meant the Book of Mormon, which is NOT the Bible (and Mormons never claimed it was).

Um…Mike, have you read the Bible? All Christians believe that Jesus was born to a virgin. Nowhere (and I can guarantee this) does it say in Mormon doctrine that God showed up on Mary's doorstep and knocked her up. Or any other religion. If you served a mission, you slept through it.

Agreed I was raised Jehovah's Witness, in a very scholarly manner I might add, and it's very true that history is wiped like a shaken etch-a-sketch time and again. The easy way to keep everything buried is within your religion. The bulk of solid JWs were born into it, and if you can raise someone with incredible fear and guilt then they will avoid any education other than the one they fear infraction from. I had to do a lot of research in leaving the religion to see just what I'd come from, and there are too many ludicrous incidents, and contradictions in their history to mention. I've personally never come across any racism with JWs, but they did have a lot of people walk when the world was still here after 1975. The justification for everything that goes wrong is Proverbs 4:18 (not gonna quote BS) at any rate the “light grows brighter and brighter” as though your hindsight is illuminating your path ahead, but the bible is supposed to be a prophecy that people can count on, so why would you ever screw up? Why would you claim a date for the end of the world? Whatever, I don't care, I can't convey 25 years of thought in rhetoric. I know what I know now and it didn't come from the bible, or any religion. One that claims it is less crazy, or more right than the other has already screwed the pooch. If you want to believe, and be spiritual don't invite anyone to join you, and you're probably going to be a bit closer to reality and the almight “truth”.

It's pretty much as Joe Smith wrote it out back when he was masterminding his ultimate ruse, the Mormon religion. Check out Jon Krakauer's “Under the Banner of Heaven,” a fascinating look at the history of Mormonism.

I think I may be the only active Mormon here who has watched this and doesn't think that it's a load of crap. Maybe it's because I'm a convert and a geek who likes to read a lot, but I came across most of this stuff when I was thinking about joining the church. Most of it i.e. Adam-God doctrine, polygamy, Blacks and the pre-existence/priesthood, Christ's conception etc. are all pretty easily found in the discourses of Brigham Young The funny thing is that these teachings (the nature of god and man, our eternal role as families etc.) are what drew me to the church in the first place (with the exception of the whole blacks thing, that was just Brigham Young being a racist). Most mainstream Mormons who were raised in the church were never taught about this stuff, and sadly but truly most of them don't really care to look beyond the standard works of the church.

It's obvious that the creators of this cartoon meant for these teachings and doctrines to sound spooky but if you take away the bad animation and the creepy voice and really think about what these ideas mean it's not really that unbelievable. …or maybe it is and I'm just weird but it makes more sense to me than believing that all of the universe and the evolution of everything on this planet including ourselves are all just random. So is the idea that there is one god who is perfect and always has been and we will never ever be able to come close to understanding what he has done let alone learn to follow in his footsteps and do it too. But hey who am I to judge what others believe right?

Not true, Katrina. The approved standard works of the Church use the KJV of the bible. There are some references to the inspired version, and selected passages from it in the back of the KJV used by the Church. More BS, I'm afraid.

I like the video

south park said the mormons were right. that should count for something, no?

If anyone is willing to do even the most basic research into the LDS's history one will find sooooooooo many contradictions and outright lies that it makes the cult look shamefully ridiculous.
Mormons claim Jesus a White man from America, and the only White skin people are pure and worthy of God's blessings. Another odd fact is that their is NO physical archeological proof to support the claims the LDS church has made regarding its biblical roots. Most mainstream Christian religions see Mormons as noting more than a for profit cult,with no legitimate ties to contemporary Christian beliefs.

you're entitled to your opinion. you're a dumbass.

Why should one person or a group try to trash another's beliefs-or lack thereof? Isn't there enough hatred bred of religious intolerance in the world already.

Having said that I liked the cartoon as much as I liked superman……Know what I mean.

Baptizing the dead? Where is that in the King James version of the Bible?

“It's also Church policy that only family members submit names for their own relatives to have ordinance work done.” not so! there are many cases where names have been submitted for posthumous ordinances such as baptism for the dead that are NOT submitted by family members and are nevertheless accepted and performed… i know of such cases, and those names were submitted inspired by prayer…

as far as most comments here, and as a former mormon myself, i just suggest people get a grip and make a clear difference between what is church doctrine and belief and what is private stand, etc… people are people and different from each other, and mormons are no different… there are lots of misunderstandings as far as mormons are concerned, as is the case with muslims, catholics, etc., etc., etc. not mixing doctrine, dogma, personal beliefs, deviations due to misunderstandings, is important.

the most important of all, however, is to live and let live. i am no longer a practicing mormon but have no ax to grind (i joined the church by choice, and maybe being a convert and not having to put with external pressure makes a difference), but i am happy to count among my relations and friends people from far more creeds and races than i would care to list here, and i cannot recall, over the 10 years i went to church, EVER seeing an individual or couple being turned away because they were black, asian, caucasian, or their marriages were mixed… however, i have met many people who behaved worse than red necks or kkk, and could find no place in their hearts to accept many of their fellow humans, brethren, etc. but this is not a mormon trait… it's human condition…

and btw, i cannot see the cartoon as youtube (must be a link pulled from youtube) does not work where i live… so, will not comment on that… my comment is only on the tone of most postings here…

As a former Mormon, I have to stand behind Mike on this one. Most of the churches I attended back in the 70s and 80s did not have a problem with discussing these issues. Before I was asked to leave the LDS for asking too many probing questions, I was even handed written materials discussing some of what this cartoon discusses. The war in heaven story has no basis in the Bible and I found that very confusing. Most of the evidences I was given were solely Mormon in origin and I found that interesting due to the fact that the Bible had tons of external evidences, witnesses and manuscripts to scrutinize. In fact, after I was asked to leave, the lone gentleman who stood up for me privately visited me and broke down into tears. He really felt that all my questions would be answered and was humiliated by the leadership’s hostility. He admitted that my questions were too difficult for him to answer but was stunned to see the reaction of the very same people he suggested I approach for insight. Even my family who are Mormons could not answer my questions and have ostracized me. But it doesn’t bother me. I know now why they can’t answer my questions and have studied theology long enough to realize that they or the LDS never will.

This video is from an actual video put out by the mormon church. I have an old vhs tape that this came from and it is a actual representation of the beliefs of the church. Of course the church has had thousands of changes to their bible and associated literature so it is no suprise the they want to keep this from public knowlege.

Better information on the “Godmakers” animation:
New Age anti-Mormons have generated considerably more controversy than the previous category. The most prominent of their number, Ed Decker, is the producer of The God Makers and The God Makers II, as well as being the author of the books by the same name. The God Makers has attracted criticism not only from Latter-day Saints,[1] but even from traditional anti-Mormons.[2] The film is generally considered acerbic and misleading, and has even provoked bomb threats against LDS meetinghouses and death threats against members.[3] In other publications Decker has asserted that the source of Mormonism is Satan and that the spires on the LDS temple “represent an upside down nail, pointing defiantly toward heaven–as if to impale the Lord Jesus anew when he comes in the clouds of glory!”[4] Furthermore, Decker sees Mormonism as a Satanic political conspiracy with roots in Hinduism and Baal worship.[5]

When Decker was denounced by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, he went so far as to accuse them of being in the pay of the LDS Church and even of being “demonized” themselves. Decker and his associates offered to exorcise the Tanners’ demons, and expressed great sadness when they refused.[6]

Source:
1 According to Michael Griffith, “Even as anti-Mormon books go, THE GODMAKERS is one of the worst, most inaccurate attacks on Mormonism ever written.” Michael T. Griffith. “Another Look at The Godmakers”. ourworld.cs.com. http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id114.htm. Retrieved 2006-09-24. . Says Introvigne, “the second book and film are worse than the first: they include an explicit call to hatred and intolerance that has been denounced as such by a number of Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish organizations.” Introvigne, p. 154.

2 His writings were described by Carl Mosser in Saints Alive in Jesus: Ed Decker – The Godmakers as follows:

“Decker is infamous for the mistakes he makes describing Mormon doctrine, the sensationalist claims he has made about Mormon rituals and leaders, and the generally uncharitable attitude with which he conducts his ministry. Most Mormons are inoculated against anything with Decker’s name on it. I think it is foolish to give Decker’s materials to Mormons and unwise to give them to Christians to read. The Mormon will be repulsed and hardened, the Christian misinformed.” “Saints Alive in Jesus: Ed Decker – The Godmakers”. ApologeticsIndex.org. http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s29.html. Retrieved 2006-06-01.

3 ^ Peterson and Ricks, pp. 4-5 fn. 6.
4 ^ Introvigne, pp. 158, 164.
5 ^ a b Peterson and Ricks, pp. 13-14.
6 ^ Introvigne, pp. 166-167.

This clip is an excerpt from the God Makers. For those with any spark of intellectual or spiritual curiosity you can find a fairly balanced article about the film at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Makers

If I was you I would file a counter notification to youtube for this video being taken down. This is clearly a violation of them taking away your rightv to fair use.