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	<title>Comments on: John Avlon: The Birthers Began on the Left</title>
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		<title>By: ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8373</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great observation, this article was written by a guy who for worked for Rudy Giuliani, but claims to be an &quot;independent&quot; with a capital &quot;I&quot; - nonetheless, I expect his definitions of &quot;Left&quot; and &quot;Right&quot; to be vastly different than what most &lt;a href=&quot;http://disinfo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disinfo.com&lt;/a&gt; visitors have in mind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reason I posted this is because he&#039;s spent the past year &quot;observing&quot; what he describes as &quot;Wingnuts&quot;: and he includes the &quot;Far Left&quot; and &quot;Far Right&quot; in that definition. (And of course he turned it into a book.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I am doing (for myself and others please comment...) is figuring out if by examining the extremes of American politics, if you can actually determine a &quot;center&quot; and therefore define &quot;Left&quot; and &quot;Right&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still working on that ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great observation, this article was written by a guy who for worked for Rudy Giuliani, but claims to be an &#8220;independent&#8221; with a capital &#8220;I&#8221; &#8211; nonetheless, I expect his definitions of &#8220;Left&#8221; and &#8220;Right&#8221; to be vastly different than what most <a href="http://disinfo.com" rel="nofollow">disinfo.com</a> visitors have in mind.</p>
<p>Reason I posted this is because he&#39;s spent the past year &#8220;observing&#8221; what he describes as &#8220;Wingnuts&#8221;: and he includes the &#8220;Far Left&#8221; and &#8220;Far Right&#8221; in that definition. (And of course he turned it into a book.)</p>
<p>What I am doing (for myself and others please comment&#8230;) is figuring out if by examining the extremes of American politics, if you can actually determine a &#8220;center&#8221; and therefore define &#8220;Left&#8221; and &#8220;Right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Still working on that &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 5by5</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8349</link>
		<dc:creator>5by5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when did Hillary become leftwing? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She&#039;s a corporatist, and so are her supporters (either that, or people who vote with their ovaries, not their brains).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when did Hillary become leftwing? </p>
<p>She&#39;s a corporatist, and so are her supporters (either that, or people who vote with their ovaries, not their brains).</p>
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		<title>By: SecretSteve</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8334</link>
		<dc:creator>SecretSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Hillary&#039;s supporters cared about the issue when it actually might have made a difference.  The point at which you could question Obama&#039;s legitimacy as a candidate for President is long since past.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Birtherism at this point just a more polite way to be racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Hillary&#39;s supporters cared about the issue when it actually might have made a difference.  The point at which you could question Obama&#39;s legitimacy as a candidate for President is long since past.</p>
<p>Birtherism at this point just a more polite way to be racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Broken Finger</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8320</link>
		<dc:creator>Broken Finger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all theater, with a side-tent of freakshow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s all theater, with a side-tent of freakshow.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8319</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans do have an idea.  They just can&#039;t openly say what it is: plutocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans do have an idea.  They just can&#39;t openly say what it is: plutocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: rfw888</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8313</link>
		<dc:creator>rfw888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republi-fascist, demo-commie, just keep your eyes on the puppets, pay no attention to those evil bankers and Wall St. fat-cats over there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republi-fascist, demo-commie, just keep your eyes on the puppets, pay no attention to those evil bankers and Wall St. fat-cats over there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilary Clinton and her supporters are hardly on the left. No one on the left gets to run for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary Clinton and her supporters are hardly on the left. No one on the left gets to run for President.</p>
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		<title>By: honu</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8306</link>
		<dc:creator>honu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, this PUMA organization is obviously a front for racist beliefs.  I&#039;ve met plenty lefties who are racists, anti semitic, etc so this so called &#039;inconvenience&#039; the liberals will have to face up to I personally could care less about.  I am not a believer in the birthers&#039; ridiculous claims and don&#039;t feel like I need to take responsibility for them even if your claims are true that it originated on the left.  It&#039;s a non issue.  Secondly, who gives a rat&#039;s ass?  The tea baggers are now and forever onwards to be linked to extremists on the right as well as the GOP in general and are a side show for the media to feed on while the lame ass mother f-ckers in the Republican Party figure out what issues and ideas will have traction with the American people again.  It&#039;s subterfuge to hide the fact that Republicans HAVE NO IDEAS AT ALL!!  They are still in the wilderness and show no signs of finding their way out.  The Tea Party a--holes are their saving grace while they figure it out.  And how wonderfully exciting it will be when they do....not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, this PUMA organization is obviously a front for racist beliefs.  I&#39;ve met plenty lefties who are racists, anti semitic, etc so this so called &#39;inconvenience&#39; the liberals will have to face up to I personally could care less about.  I am not a believer in the birthers&#39; ridiculous claims and don&#39;t feel like I need to take responsibility for them even if your claims are true that it originated on the left.  It&#39;s a non issue.  Secondly, who gives a rat&#39;s ass?  The tea baggers are now and forever onwards to be linked to extremists on the right as well as the GOP in general and are a side show for the media to feed on while the lame ass mother f-ckers in the Republican Party figure out what issues and ideas will have traction with the American people again.  It&#39;s subterfuge to hide the fact that Republicans HAVE NO IDEAS AT ALL!!  They are still in the wilderness and show no signs of finding their way out.  The Tea Party a&#8211;holes are their saving grace while they figure it out.  And how wonderfully exciting it will be when they do&#8230;.not.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan_85</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8305</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan_85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wasn&#039;t the native born requirement just to keep foreigners from infultrating our government anyway? i mean dang we have american ceo&#039;s and politicians inflitrating our government daily and those birthers aren&#039;t saying crap about that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wasn&#39;t the native born requirement just to keep foreigners from infultrating our government anyway? i mean dang we have american ceo&#39;s and politicians inflitrating our government daily and those birthers aren&#39;t saying crap about that!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s time to scrap the native born requirement, if we don&#039;t the land of opportunity line is just BS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#39;s time to scrap the native born requirement, if we don&#39;t the land of opportunity line is just BS</p>
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		<title>By: bryan_85</title>
		<link>http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/john-avlon-the-birthers-began-on-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-8291</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan_85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i could careless if obama is a native american or not. next story please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i could careless if obama is a native american or not. next story please!</p>
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		<title>By: Milton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP started the Tea baggers but you do not see Dems blindly following their claims like the GOP.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To the Birthers, prove it, Oh that’s right you can’t, just more of your unsubstantiated rumors you keep writing on your hands to help you keep up. You are just another Palin, just like “W”, just like Quayle, just like Reagan. I love you guys.  Keep plucking that chicken.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/81821/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP started the Tea baggers but you do not see Dems blindly following their claims like the GOP.</p>
<p>To the Birthers, prove it, Oh that’s right you can’t, just more of your unsubstantiated rumors you keep writing on your hands to help you keep up. You are just another Palin, just like “W”, just like Quayle, just like Reagan. I love you guys.  Keep plucking that chicken.</p>
<p><a href="http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/81821/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.." rel="nofollow">http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display..</a>.</p>
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