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Meet the Tea Party’s Corporate Puppet Masters

Posted by Haystack on October 9, 2010

Profiled by Jane Mayer in the August 30 New Yorker, brothers Charles and David Koch are two libertarian billionaires who have been quietly funding the Tea Party and other anti-Obama campaigns:

“The Kochs operate oil refineries in Alaska, Texas, and Minnesota, and control some four thousand miles of pipeline. Koch Industries owns Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Stainmaster carpet, and Lycra, among other products. Forbes ranks it as the second-largest private company in the country, after Cargill, and its consistent profitability has made David and Charles Koch—who, years ago, bought out two other brothers—among the richest men in America. Their combined fortune of thirty-five billion dollars is exceeded only by those of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.
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“The Kochs are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and much less oversight of industry—especially environmental regulation. These views dovetail with the brothers’ corporate interests. In a study released this spring, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the top ten air polluters in the United States. And Greenpeace issued a report identifying the company as a ‘kingpin of climate science denial.’ The report showed that, from 2005 to 2008, the Kochs vastly outdid ExxonMobil in giving money to organizations fighting legislation related to climate change, underwriting a huge network of foundations, think tanks, and political front groups. Indeed, the brothers have funded opposition campaigns against so many Obama Administration policies—from health-care reform to the economic-stimulus program—that, in political circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus.”

Mayer has also written critically of leftist financier George Soros and is generally troubled with the implications of large personal fortunes being injected into the political process. She draws a contrast, however, between Soros’s high public profile and relative transparency, and the characteristic secrecy in which the Kochs have funded political movements that directly support their own business interests. “They’re smart,” she quotes a former Koch advisor, “This right-wing, redneck stuff works for them. They see this as a way to get things done without getting dirty themselves.”

[More at The New Yorker]

[disinfo ed.'s note: the Brothers Koch have posted a response to the New Yorker article at their corporate website.]
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  • Tuna Ghost

    Wow, an unsupported personal anecdote posted online about your own experience that has no relevance to what I said? I can’t believe no one takes you seriously!

  • Tuna Ghost

    That doesn’t disprove anything, genius. For fuck’s sake how hard is it to a.) post something that more than a tangetal relevance to the topic, or b.) discover what actually constitutes “proof”?

    You’re a teenager, and that’s okay. When you get to college, though, you’ll eventually take a class called “argumentative writing”. I hope you pay attention.

  • Anonymous

    “Somebody please post some data that disproves the story. Otherwise stifle yerself. ”

    Was the post I replied to cocksucker. I’m 35.

  • Anonymous

    Ladies, please, the politically correct term for “buses” is “multi-person-carbon-death-mobiles”. Didn’t you get the email and flyer?

  • E.B. Wolf

    Yea, I’ve wondered if certain posters are pros myself. But at the end of the day it’s almost impossible to identify those who are paid PR people from the suckers who have simply bought into the lie hook, line, and sinker and go on “missionary” expeditions in cyberspace.

  • Anonymous

    Because for the time being, we don’t have run-off voting. Until we get that at the national level, nothing will change. This is because you can’t simply vote for a third party candidate, and have your vote actually count right now. If you vote for a third party candidate, in essence, you’re just throwing your vote away.

    With run-off voting, you name your first choice, the Liberal, Socialist, Indie, or Green Party member you REALLY like, and if he or she doesn’t get a certain percentage of the vote, you vote then transfers to your second choice, presumably a Democrat. (Note, this also works on the Conservative side, of course.)

    Because we don’t have a Parliamentary system where coalition governments can be formed as they are in Europe, this is the only answer to the two-party dilemma.

  • Anonymous

    Why would I need private health insurance, when I’ve got government health care that comes with service to the country? Similarly, why would you need private health insurance corporate middlemen telling you what care THEY think you should have in contravention of your doctor’s advice, when you could have universal public health care paid for by your regular taxes?

    And I have no idea what your last sentence was supposed to mean. Some paranoid fantasy in your head? Dunno.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Yeah, no shit. Any time you want to explain how that counts as “disproving” the story, we’re all ears. Unless of course you can’t because your posts have no substance to them, which would be a surprise to nobody.

  • BadCitizen

    The “only” answer means we don’t have a choice. So if we have no choice, then what’s the point in voting? In actuality, when we vote, we are begging for our freedoms. Both parties deny us certain freedoms in exchange for others. It’s a big game, and it’s an illusion of choice. As long as we continue to buy the idea, that our vote/candidate is going to make a difference, then we feel like we still have power. It does not matter who gets elected, we need to face the truth, we don’t matter in any political system. The agenda will be carried out no matter who we vote for. When we vote, we are saying “here mr. politician, please take care of all our problems, while we sit on our ass and watch TV.” Don’t buy the BS ,one by one we are dropping out of the system and starting changing things on our own. We are volunteering and making “change” on our own. Voting in the system = outsourcing our power. http://imperfect-citizen.blogspot.com/

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Exactly, I’m far from rich, but I’d much rather help someone out who will help me out than fucking sit and take other peoples hard earned money. Fuck man, I mean haven’t we realized that there is no perfect government? None. Nope. Besides, when people try to make it as perfect as possible (our founding fathers and everyone that fought in the revolutionary war) there will ALWAYS be someone trying to ruin it and or take advantage… Too bad there’s no way to weed out all the fucking liar/thief/murderer/criminal/con artist bastards in the world at once.

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Read the healthcare bill yourself then. And then think about how each and every regulation will be twisted into what our corporate government finds to be the most profitable. This bill was written by INSURANCE LAWYERS. Research it. They even put a gold transaction tax in the HEALTHCARE bill. Wonder what else? read it. There’s also something in there about electronic monitoring of class A and B electronic implants… Could be interpreted many ways… READ.

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Why don’t you ever state your own opinion? I mean, like cite a source or something at least. Describe WHY you feel the way you do, rather than just sounding uninformed. No offense, but someone with a “Dont Tread On Me” logo should know a bit more than “thats wrong”. Sorry if I come off as a dick. It happens. Dont make us look like idiots.

  • Andrew

    It would also explain why he mostly relies on ad hominem.

  • Theyareallthesame

    I love Ron Paul, but he pisses me off about 9/11… I know it is political suicide for any politician to say “9/11 was an inside job, we need a new investigation”, but I couldn’t put my faith in someone who would let 3000 deaths just slide by like that. I mean the 3000 is NOTHING compared to all of the innocents/non combatants killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last 15 years by U.S. troops and contractors, I think somebody needs to take accountability for it… Anyways…

  • Liam_McGonagle

    I’m glad you’re not voting. ‘Cause your reasoning here is a pretty bad shambles.

    So Jesus ain’t on the ballot, the whole enterprise is worthless? Don’t believe in gradual progress through comprimise? Sounds like the deluded ramblings of a Somali warlord.

    Let’s face facts: It takes freakin’ GENERATIONS to get meaningful change, and it takes votes to make it last. Society is an irreducably cooperative venture. There is no ‘going it alone’. You either debate and vote like a grown, civilized human being or rise in a violent coup against your fellows. Or sulk alone at home in a fetal position waiting for the Messiah.

    It took us over 80 years from the Treaty of Paris to the abolition of slavery. Ten years from that point to get the vote for African Americans. Fifty years from that point until women could vote. And it took almost another 20 years after that to enact the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act to eliminate on a nation-wide scale the most abusive manipulation of child labor by the industrialists.

    None of that would have been possible if the American people back then had been the type of worthless whimps we see around us today, wringing their hands in helpless terror waiting for Santy Claus to come and make it all better.

    Voting ain’t for whimps, so if you feel you’re not up for it, please stay home.

  • Theanarkest

    They are all the same evil.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Ha ha. Just because yer old man beat the shit out of you as a kid and made you wear your sisters’ dresses doesn’t mean you have to bend everyone else’s ear with yer old sob stories. Yeah, we get where you’re coming from . . . you NEVER respond with any relevant information or a cogent argument. . . only with hints of a self-loathing homophobia born out of your own fear that you’re queer.

    Newsflash: The rest of us don’t give a flying fuck about that crap. So as a parting gesture, ’cause I suspect that very few people will be inclined to waste their time on you henceforth: Get over yourself. You’re not that important.

  • gemmarama

    so how exactly are we pronouncing “koch”..?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    ok so why aren’t the idiots that funded obama and the democrats being exposed? liberals should have their tongues removed because they speak with free speech but don’t take anyone elses free speech. we should just throw the whole government out and start a new one. i like discussing stuff like this online but your voice only goes so far. i wish more people would get out to town meetings or political gatherings to make their voices heard in a peaceful way. the only reason to use force by firepower would be defense or retaliation against our government.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    Yeah I don’t agree with the lesser of two evils. They’re all equal in my eyes. We need a “peoples” party. Politics is turning into religion as in Denominations. One group says they like this, dont like that etc etc. The other group says ya well we like that but lets add this to it to make it what we want. Then you have one side that says to hell with all that sh*t! We want everything for free and don’t want to work. Then I’m sitting here like wtf! Why the hell can’t anyone agree on the issues. No one is looking for a solution but just to piss the other party off. I am considering joining the missouri militia for some survial skills, more weapons training and some like minded people. I personally don’t think republican or democrat can fix the country but liberals pushing socialism will be the end of the country and thats when I’ll start opening fire on all of those bastards!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    wow i had no idea that is how it is! but if i vote for the 3rd party that is one less vote for the other 2 bs parties.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    well you know whats awesome. i lost my job in december last year a week after my daughter was born. I lost my health insurance for myself but got medicaid for my daughter. Well my doctor i had when I had insurance is also a pediatrician so he sees my daughter right. Well he actually knew my health insurance was up and out and told me to come see him for anything I need and I don’t have to pay for the visit. If he writes me a prescription I obviously have to pay for the medicine. But I have been very lucky. My doctor is a younger guy and I consider him a friend more than a doctor. I trust him with anything I tell him. He’s very honest and if he thinks something won’t work he wont do it or at least give me the option of doing it like an xray or mri or what ever the case. It’s too bad more doctors aren’t like him. If I have to I will do home surgery before heading to the ER. Nothing a little alchohol, bandages and hot sewing needles cant fix.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    It’s funny you brought that up because they were trying to rush congress to sign that peice of shit into play before even reading through all of it! That right there should tell you something is up. I can’t believe america is sitting back letting these assholes control our fate. It’s just pure and utter bullshit! U know as well as I do that capitol hill is just laughing at the people of the united states.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WNJO236SF5VLSOB6ZUCBLDBF6M MaxImpactGuns

    well i hate to burst tha bubble but our politicians think we are all sheep driven idiots to begin with. The people just need to rise up against this corrupt bullshit and hang every single one of these politicians. I’m sure a revolution is coming at some point in the future maybe our lifetime. All I tell people is make friends with people who know how to survive just incase shit hits the fan.

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Hell yeah dead on man.

  • http://twitter.com/sciamachy Sciamachy

    So the Tea Party are all Koch’s Suckers?

    Strikes me as funny how people label themselves Libertarian when they’re essentially Corporatist. They don’t stand for the liberty of the little guys – they stand for their own liberty & that of corporations to exploit any weaknesses they can find.

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Yeah they are, the ones that aren’t completely ignorant to real life anyways, I’m sure some of them have no idea, living in their filth mansions bought with OUR fuuuuuckiiiing money. But yeah the general capitol hill gang are having a good ol’ time right now, too bad they don’t understand that when revolution does come (IF the sheeple EVER wake up) they will be the first to hang… I can’t wait to hear them beg…. Ahh sweet justice ( I hope)… And yeah they dont read anything, there’s a few congressional polls you could look up on what percent says they they read bills before voting on them, I don;t remember the exact numbers… Bad though..

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    No here. I don’t like her either.. But here read this. The history is not completely clear, but the rattlesnake has a long history, before we HAD a federal government. http://www.gadsden.info/history.html

  • HijackTheTeaParty

    Actually here. Good enuff Liam.

    Although Benjamin Franklin helped create the American rattlesnake symbol, his name isn’t generally attached to the rattlesnake flag. The yellow “don’t tread on me” standard is usually called a Gadsden flag, for Colonel Christopher Gadsden, or less commonly, a Hopkins flag, for Commodore Esek Hopkins.

    These two individuals were mulling about Philadelphia at the same time, making important contributions to American history and the history of the rattlesnake flag.

    Christopher Gadsden was an American patriot if ever there was one. He led Sons of Liberty in South Carolina starting in 1765, and was later made a colonel in the Continental Army. In 1775 he was in Philadelphia representing his home state in the Continental Congress. He was also one of three members of the Marine Committee who decided to outfit and man the Alfred and its sister ships.

    Esek Hopkins portrait with Dont Tread on Me flag in background
    Commodore Hopkins, portrait by C. Corbutt, 1776. Click here for a larger image. The Don’t Tread on Me flag in this image appears to be a First Navy Jack. Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division.

    Gadsden and Congress chose a Rhode Island man, Esek Hopkins, as the commander-in-chief of the Navy. The flag that Hopkins used as his personal standard on the Alfred is the one we would now recognize. It’s likely that John Paul Jones, as the first lieutenant on the Alfred, ran it up the gaff.

    It’s generally accepted that Hopkins’ flag was presented to him by Christopher Gadsden, who felt it was especially important for the commodore to have a distinctive personal standard. Gadsden also presented a copy of this flag to his state legislature in Charleston. This is recorded in the South Carolina congressional journals:

    “Col. Gadsden presented to the Congress an elegant standard, such as is to be used by the commander in chief of the American navy; being a yellow field, with a lively representation of a rattle-snake in the middle, in the attitude of going to strike, and these words underneath, “Don’t Tread on Me!”

  • Hmmmmm

    Well, yes the tea party and good intentions of the people were hijacked by their so called candidates…. All neocons besides Ron Paul.

  • KIM TRUHLAR

    being part of the Tea Party, I have never heard of any money coming from any corporations. It is coming from the people. So I say to you is prove it with facts, if you can. And if you can not see what the progressives are trying to do to this country, than I really feel sorry for you.

  • Andrew

    What if we fully support what the progressives are trying to do to this country?

  • Hadrian999

    so people have to counter your unsubstantiated anecdotal claims with hard facts,
    hardly seems fair. if you are on the bottom rung of the organization you wouldn’t know about any money
    anymore than someone putting up posters for a in an election know about the candidate’s funding.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3WT4CJMNBWMZSQOC2UTJDV6INI Sasquatch

    What a bunch of crap – there are billionaires’ money backing both sides of the issues affecting this administration and America…big surprise!!!? No – that’s their prerogative as Americans and non of them seek publicity about their contributions and so this article seeks to demonize them? … not really, the author only seeks to demonize those who are against policies the author believes in. In America the author has the right to slant or taint the truth anyway he wants but the real question is how does he sleep at night? The Tea Party was not started by the Kochs but they signed on because they agree with the grass roots movement which began without any participation by them. On the other hand the democrats have no grass root movement and only get support by communist groups, union members and other corrupt organizations like acorn who are paid to go to rallies and leave a mess everywhere they go (in contrast with tea party rallies).