Joe Rogan On WTC 7 And The Military Industrial Complex

Yea i have to totally agree. I have done DMT and had pretty much the same experience as joe rogan. And i didn’t even know about his video on youtube when i did it. DMT should be produced in mass quantities

So what you mean to say is, Fire just destroys everything it touches even steel framed buildings. But only on 9/11! How dare I question the government, excuse me Mr. Limbaugh, Your government!

So now that your personal 2 minute hate is over how about we revisit the evidence.

1. Nano Thermite conclusively found in the dust of all 3 World Trade Centers.
2. First time in history steel framed hi rises completely destroyed due to kerosene according to you and anyone else who doesn’t want to believe they could be lied to by their government.
3. 2.3 trillion conveniently goes missing the day before 9/11/01
4. 32 people die who would have had direct knowledge of accounting exactly where the missle struck the pentagon. April Gallup crawls out of the hole notices no plane debris and testifies as much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88JQL4esHFg
5. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess stranded in Building 7 before the towers come down. Barry Jennings reports stepping on dead bodies as he is escorted out of Building 7, testifies as much to Loose Change crew, later dies mysteriously…
6. 1,400 Architects and Engineers stake their reputation and livelihood to question their government’s conspiracy theory of the events of 9/11 (Like real patriots do)
7. Osama Bin Laden not wanted for 9/11 according to FBI Web-site (how does this not bother you??)

Ae911Truth.Org
BuildingWhat.Org
PatriotsQuestion911.com
FireFightersfor911truth.org

Real patriots stand up!

You’re right Drinky! I’m so personally invested in getting to the bottom of the crime of the century! What shall I do? Should I be like you and just pretend that whatever the government says is infallible truth? Should I aspired for a degree in Bullshit detection from whatsamatta U? You’re so wise.

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I bet I know which “2″ people liked this! hahaha.
Ok you have made it too easy again.

How about that molten steel. Anyone with eyes and ears can see the witness testimony as well as photographic evidence. But hey why should we trust the heroes on the scene that day? Maybe FireFightersfor911truth.org could answer that question but here is the video evidence for anyone who wants to know how bad these guys are lying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESol88wOi0

You’re suggesting that Steven Jones was fired because people disagreed with him, it’s amazing what power government pressure to stymie dissent can have in this land of the free. Funny how we treat whistle blowers in this country (Bradley Manning anyone?!?) or how about Kevin Ryan. You really think it’s that easy to question the biggest lie of the new century? Seems anytime someone questions the government and has a case they end up being fired, sabotaged or killed. (Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson come to mind)

Also you are reiterating the official conspiracy theory and suggesting that fires solely were responsible for bringing down all three towers. Let’s just focus on Building 7. What temperature does steel melt at again? Titanium reinforced steel at that? How hot can diesel or hyrdocarbon fed fires burn? Also how is it that random asymmetrical fires can lead to a global collapse across the entire edifice simultaneously again?

How is it possible that freefall could be achieved at all at the onset of global collapse? Please enlighten me how random office fires achieve this. Also you do know that there were no raging fires present at 3pm and again this is all nicely countered here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESol88wOi0
How do random office fires simultaneously compromise to the point of failure welded steel bolts fastening the building together?

“A single, localized failure (a girder unseated – NIST) could not cause the systematic and totalFAILURE OF 400 OTHER STRUCTURAL STEEL CONNECTIONS PER SECOND.”

Here again is the evidence http://www.scribd.com/doc/34799106/Trust-Your-Eyes-the-Facts-and-the-Laws-of-Physics

The Truth is in the Evidence: FDNY and others found several tons ofmolten metal “flowing like lava” under all 3 high-rises.

1400°F office fires cannot produce 2700+°F molten metal.

Thermite incendiaries can. Microspheres formed from molten iron and aluminum were found in the WTC dust by USGS, the environmental firm RJ Lee, and independent physicists.

Thermite reactions account for this phenomenon. WTC dust samples contain small chips of highly energetic nano-thermitecomposite materials – uniformly nano- sized, proportioned and embedded in an organic gas- generating (explosive) matrix. Evidence Excludedfrom the NIST Report: 123 45 Most of the rubble from the implosion ended up in this neat pile —centered within the original footprint.

The 47-story steel-framed structure was dismembered and reduced to a small pile only a few stories high – with complete destruction- unmistakable signs of a controlled demolition implosion.

Hot spots atop the rubble, detected by NASA infrared imaging, persisted for weeks, indicating temperatures in the pile far above those of normal office fires.

Evidence of melted steel and “severe high temperature corrosion” documented in Appendix C of FEMA report. Problem: FEMA’s May 2002 report concluded that its hypothesis [diesel-fuel-fed fire] had only a “low probability of occurrence” and that “further investigation and analysis were required”, although at that time, removal and destruction of the evidence had already been orchestrated.

Office fires don’t melt steel. Other research revealed the signature of thermite — an incendiary that creates molten iron. The collapse of WTC 7 looks like a classic explosive CONTROLLED DEMOLITION:

The building falls almost straight down in about 7 seconds – and at free-fall acceleration for 100 feet — per NIST

•The overall building mass falls uniformly through what was the path of greatest resistance.This requires a precisely timed, patterned removal of critical columns.

•The kink in the roofline is characteristic of a demolition timing sequence that causes buildings to implode symmetrically by collapsing inward.  SMALL POCKETS OF SHORT-LIVED FIRES could not cause floor system failure by “thermal expansion” (NIST) in this modern fire-proofed steel-framed structure.  A

I do not expect a well founded scientifically valid refutation of the above facts. Here comes the slander, ad hominem, distraction and red herring attacks!

Watch out, New World Order lapdogs and sycophants, Detective McTermite is on the case… he might just stumble into something… probably a patch of poison ivy, but you never know… he might just find… The TROOF.

Seriously, in ten years, I fully expect to be hearing someone “ask questions” about “what really happened that day”…at the burlington coat factory.

Seriously, why are there no conspiracy theories about the Burlington Coat Factory. “They” say it was abandoned and sitting empty, but I have other theories… Why was the media silent on the fact that BCF was damaged on 9/11 right up until the manufactured ground zero mosque controversy almost TEN YEARS later.

No bluster, you’re just not worth the effort. The Architects an Engineers (1469 as of today and growing) http://ae911truth.org/ Will continue this good work. You can continue doing whatever it is you do.

I guess you are not so interested in the truth as in doing your best to distract, discredit, and discourage others from finding out what has really happened and what is really happening in the world of 9/11 truth.

That is your choice. So I will just let the facts speak for themselves.

Peace
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It’s called the Architects and Engineers for a reason. There are 57 pages of documentation of the signers and their accreditation. http://www2.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php?o=1 1469 and Growing!

Not sure what argument you are trying to make exactly. Are you saying that by using plain english that they are somehow being disingenuous? Man you are really grasping at straws now.

Also you are not really making much sense with your emotionally overdrawn responses. Try to take a deep breath or two and construct a logical argument.

I know you are just trying to get under my skin because you know you have no logical argument for the facts as expressed. You want to insinuate that you know me or my personality as a way to pull me down to your level. Guess what it’s not about me.

This is bigger than any ego on a blog.

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“All great truths begin as blasphemies.” – George Bernard Shaw

So now it’s 500? Last time you said 250? Can’t you keep your red herring arguments straight? By the way
Here is a link to their process. Maybe you should take it up with them?
Their claim is that they are Verified. Here is their definition of Verified.
1,400 of whom are licensed and/or degreed A/E professionals.

Now I know you will probably say they are not licensed and thus we should dismiss them. So would a Doctor who has retired have to revoke the years of experience working in their field if they chose not to go through the expensive and time consuming process of maintaining their licenses? Should they not be allowed to testify or offer advice because a governing body needs to be paid for certificate to allow them to speak from a place of experience?

But again you’re not looking for logical presentation of facts rather you want to attack anything and everything to avoid looking at the real issues. I don’t know what motivates you to do so but I have clearly stated all of the facts that are not in dispute (even by NIST) so you can make of it what you will.

Please find the link below confirming my above statements as well as a very thorough explanation as to the lengths this Volunteer organization goes to to ensure their signers are Verified.

http://ae911truth.org/en/news/41-articles/430-credibility.html

Ensuring Our Credibility: The AE911Truth Verification Team
Written by Brian Romanoff
Friday, 07 January 2011 14:27
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth has an extraordinary Verification Team. They are a very special group of volunteers – individually responsible for ensuring that signers of the AE911Truth petition are real and the information they provide is accurate. All petition signers are verified, whether they are architects, engineers, or “other” supporters, and regardless of whether they live in the United States. Verifying 13,000 petition signers, 1,400 of whom are licensed and/or degreed A/E professionals, is no small task.
Sean Brizendine led the Verifications Team with exceptional skills and dedication throughout 2010
In 2010 alone, more than 400 professional architects and engineers were verified and displayed on the AE911Truth petition. Each of domestic A/E signer is contacted personally by phone by one of the Verification Team volunteers. Most of these professionals are surprised, then satisfied and thankful for the time and effort we spend verifying their credentials. After making personal contact with each signer, the volunteer reviews the signer’s credentials. If contact cannot be made or if appropriate credentials cannot be found, we do not count or display the signer on our A/E professionals list.
Even the thousands of people who sign our petition in the “others” category are reviewed for valid emails, phone numbers, and other criteria. While reviewing the body of other supporters, we have found many amazingly skilled individuals ranging from physicists to lawyers and veterans. In fact, many people in the others category are also architects or engineers by trade, but without the credentials we need for the professionals category. Please visit and read some of the testimonies from either category, as both have much to offer.

Throughout 2010, the Verifications Team was led by Sean Brizendine, who worked tirelessly to make sure all the volunteers’ questions were answered and issues resolved. He also called most of those professional signers himself.

Sean was backed by a diverse group of volunteers throughout the year, including many who are still with the current Verifications Team. Carol Cleveland, Laura Nieboer, Brian Romanoff, Laila Selk and Blake Shatto make up the Verifications Team heading into 2011. Sean Brizendine has graciously passed the torch on and moved to other necessary AE911Truth operations.

Our weekly Verification Conference calls are a vital communication tool. Emails sometimes just aren’t enough (and sometimes they are too much!). Every week there are more petition signers than days, and some signers offer challenges as well as rewards. A thank-you email is sent to every single signer by the Verifications Team .

We look forward to an exciting year, and are aiming to reach 600 new professional signers which will bring us to a pivotal 2,000 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in 2011! If you haven’t yet signed the petition, please do so now. It’s never too late to take responsible heroic action.

fewer than 250 architects plus fewer than 250 engineers equals fewer than 500 licensed professionals in all. Too bad I had to spell that out to you, but what can I expect, this isn’t Harvard.

Anyway, thank you for admitting that my point was correct, even if you argue that it doesn’t matter if someone is licensed. Personally, yes, I think it matters, the license is what separates a professional from a layman; it represents verified achievements, both academic and professional. This is implicit in the very premise of “architects and engineers for 911 truth” it’s unfortunate that you and Richard feel the need to pad your numbers with students, drafters, office boys and other assorted hangers on.

I might also add that it is you who has not responded to any of my point by point rebuttals of your paranoid fantasies.

@ Argosy and the Argosy dopple gang

Oh lord…. http://www2.ae911truth.org/sig...
Notice they say Licensed and degreed signers. This is not “padding” you are just looking for a way to dismiss the evidence. They have been nothing but truthful with their declaration and for you to suggest otherwise simply shows the level you will stoop to to sling mud.
http://www2.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php

Science is not majority rule. If it were we would probably have never evolved out of the dark ages. That nasty Catholic church had a nasty habit of torturing and burning at the stake anyone who challenged their narrow minded, psychopathic control needs.

Sad to say some people continue in these outdated mindsets.

But hey if you need every Architect and Engineer in the world to give you psychological permission to stand up when you see murder being condoned and excused by the priesthood. That is your own issue.

By the way, it is a Volunteer organization after all, no tax derived freebies, hard working AMERICAN’s disagree with their government and thank god The Constitution was written to ensure exactly this dissent. So I ask you. Why do you hate the constitution? See what I did? I used a little of your black magic there. I really don’t assume you hate the Constitution, I just know you don’t understand history or what was really intended with that document. I framed the question trying to corner you as you would I. But I have more ethics than that so just consider that a little nudge as to how you come off.

As for evidence, again it is clearly all listed above in my posts. You can say whatever you want, it’s fine, the facts still stand and anyone who reads through all of this will see your attitude and intentions for what they are. I’ve got to get back to the work of organizing good people who can still think, feel, and act on truth to lead the charge for a new investigation with subpoena power. That way Bush and Co won’t be able to hold hands and not have anything recorded like before when they were questioned by the 9/11 omission commission (no mention of building 7 in that report)

Anyone who sees Building 7 collapse has all the information they need to question the official story. Thank God that there are brave individuals out there who do challenge the lies of empire.

You are not one of them and I’m sorry that you have obviously become so brainwashed that you can’t see the forest for the trees and need to focus on myopic red herrings as a way to bolster your fallacious points. Oh that and name calling, non sequiturs and distraction.

It’s a little too easy now that your pattern has been established.
Therefore I wish you well you and your doppleganger friends!

AuRevoir and May Liberty, Justice, Freedom, Truth, Honest Inquiry of the Facts and Love Reign!

PS> You don’t happen to work for Ga Tech as an english professor do you?

“So you’re not going to offer an answer for Bin Laden not being wanted for crimes of 9/11. Then who masterminded it?”

I think that the government was actually responsible for all the mass murder that Al Capone was accused of by the public. My argument? Well, just look at why “they” went after him: tax evasion. I mean, obviously since “mass murder” wasn’t right at the top of the list, simple logic dictates it must have been the government who did the “mass murder”. Am i right? Am I right? I mean this isn’t rocket science here…

“Classic misdirection techniques.”

Ohhhhhh…. I know what you need to see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHEsEshhLs

Welcome to the new Gulf of Tonkin Event. Wiki said it best:

In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that
“it is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night. [...] In truth, Hanoi’s navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on August 2″

So a war was launched because a US battleship encountered the wreckage of two boats and as per the captains accounts an over excited radar-man confused the sound of his propeller with that of a torpedo hitting the ship.

Millions died. on both sides. They knew they weren’t hit by a torpedo.

Only this time our government launched the torpedo.

or a plane…on 3 buildings.

Well Joe Rogan is not exactly a scientist. Sure he can be heavy handed but you know what – people listen to him more than 14,000 architects and engineers presenting clear and science based forensic data that Building 7 ’s collapse defies laws of PHYSICS.

Truth is – anyone who fought in the Vietnam war fought for nothing.
Truth is – the event that lead to that war was a false flag attack Re: the gulf of tonkin ( wiki it)
The truth is – Joe Rogan isn’t a scientist or an FBI whisleblower or a soldier on the ground who’s discovered that
The truth is— You’re paying for an illegal war and you’re supporting murder.

I’m not a truther – i’m just a real person. Real people were MLK who said we have guided missiles and misguided men.

And the truth is – Mr Jones — You have the luxury of ignoring this war and ignoring the events of that day because you’re not getting your home broken into by soldiers arresting you for having a weapon.
You’re not having your farm repossessed for the use of growing Opium. Your wife or son or daughter isn’t being returned to you in a box with a flag in it.

Or maybe that IS happening to you and you don’t really care. — Either way don’t get on people for questioning just because you’re okay with being asleep.

If this doesn’t effect you and its got no merit – then why are you here? why not go comment on something about what ever interests you? You seem soo upset by the folks on here who have questions. You know who had questions? Barry Jennings who worked for Guliani. WTC 7 was the emergency management office. Barry was the manager of that. You should look up his video on youtube. He asks some very relevant questions. – But sadly he’s dead now. He was stuck in building 7 for some reason before it fell. they said the Boiler exploded. If that was the case– dont you think the NIST report would have mentioned that??? – nope – not a word of that in there…

why do i care so much?? i was about to be there. NY is my home. and i know people being sent to die for nothing. I’m sorry i can’t turn off the reality of this situation and watch some propaganda BS that tells me my government cares about its people. we all know they are crooked. Not all of them but at least the way corporations are now given more liberties than people. they run this country. And war profiteering is a real thing. They are willing to do ANYTHING to keep that power. and killing its own people is not beyond them.

In WW2 the us took Americans of Japanese decent and put them in interment camps.

lets switch that to today. – say we went to war with IRELAND. all red heads or folks with Irish names or of Irish decent in the country would be shipped to an “Interment camp” and not released until the war was over to stop resentment —what? Oh but because they are Muslim and most Americans don’t know anything about Muslims then it has nothing to do with them. Just wait until they turn those PTSD riddled soldiers who have been conditioned to see people as expendable come home and taze you for speeding or have no qualms about searching your home and murdering YOU in the name of “freedom” If you can’t see this if you’re not going to do anything then that’s fine. Just don’t get in the way of people are willing to stand up.

In the end – these conversations won’t convince you. Not Joe Rogan’s videos – not Richard Gage – not anyone. You have to find these things out for yourself.

Thankfully the government did a sloppy job with building 7 – science is on our side!

911 truth now! remember the fallen. Remember those who still fall

apparently THIS is bringing people freedom

Actually you know– I didnt have any opinions about it other than feeling sadness and then just as my father wondered being in the military – WHY was norad told to stand down?? When a place loses contact with Air traffic control that system is enabled in minutes. We have plans that can fly across the united states from end to end on 8 minutes. But a planes were allowed to go off course for a 1/2 hour and that doen’t raise any questions for you??

Don’t dismiss the facts in attempting to dismiss the people.

Perhaps you should take a listen to the 4 star general who thinks we should have a new investigation too. He’s got nothing to gain in stating that.

yeah– some people get really fired up about telling people they’re wrong. Its cool tho. Just wait till this all comes out. he’ll turn around n say ” Oh yeah well i knew there was something wrong all along” just like when it wasn’t popular to dislike Bush. everyone jumped on the band wagon AFTER he was out of office. But he was an idiot. And everyone knew it and only a few said something.

He doesn’t work for anyone. He’s just some weak a$$ punk who will probably kill himself once the media cancels dancing with the stars lol.

“I mean i looked over the NIST report. They even say that their best Hypothesis is unlikely.”

You “looked it over”? Really? Pray tell, how many pages was it and how long did it take you to “LOOK IT OVER”?

Perhaps you mean you read a few clips from ae911truth.org or something (likely taken out of context).

“We don’t have to come up with conspiracy “Theory” when there are plenty of facts and scientific Peer reviewed data to support foul play was at hand.”

What is this “plenty of facts and peer-reviewed data” of which you speak? `Data’ or `papers’?

What about the Molten Steel in the bottom of all 3 buildings reported by firefighters 90 days AFTER the buildings fell.

believing the official story IS conspiracy theory.

why didn’t any of the buildings directly around the towers fall?

Barry Jennings, Guiliani’s Coordinator for emergency management explains that the hole in building 7 happened while he was IN the building there was an explosion beneath him he was trapped in before the buildings fell. he was trapped on the 8th floor for hours

Barry Jennings however , is now dead . he died 2 days before the commission report was released.