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Internet Billionaire Wants to Create ‘Libertarian’ Islands

Posted by Join Or DIE on August 18, 2011

Freedom IslandVia the NY Daily News:

Peter Thiel has made his fortune by being part of the next big thing: He was a co-founder of Paypal and one of the early investors of Facebook. But a new Details profile sums up his new plans: “Forget startup companies. The next frontier is startup countries.”

Thiel has donated $1.25 million to the Seasteading Institute, the brainchild of Patri Friedman, a former Google engineer and grandson of economist Milton Friedman. Here’s the gist: creation of libertarian, sovereign nations built on oil-rig-type platforms anchored in international waters and free from the laws and moral codes of any other country.

Plans for the prototype include a movable, diesel-powered 12,000-ton structure that could house 270 residents. The goal would be to eventually link hundreds of the structures together. Friedman’s timeline is to launch offices off San Francisco next year, get a full-time settlement within seven years and eventually diplomatic recognition from the UN.

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  • EatTheRich

    I hate reality TV…but I would watch that :-)

  • Giarturo

    I smell Bioshock.

  • leafygreens

    Well, Unjust Worlds, the problem with separating anarchy from libertarianism is none to easy these days as most of the people spouting off about libertarians conflate the concepts of economic freedom with that of social justice. Of course, rightly put, that’s not anarchy either, just a pre-fascist state–exactly what we have here in the good ol’ U.S. of Assholes. The true problem is Nozickian or Hayeckian Libertarianism is impossible (or at least highly fucking improbable) in a society where the majority of wealth is concentrated in the top 1 percent. The Nightwatchman minarchist state so desired by ideologues is but another pipe dream, another Utopia fit only to be shot from the sky by the Realpolitik of The Fundamentalist Christian Right and their Blackwater jack-booted thugs. 

  • Adam

    Watch out for Big Daddy…

  • Anonymous

    Wow, 46 comments, casual dismissals, and vapid bits of snobbery.  The first half of which focused on the word billionaire, from the headline.  I wonder how many bothered with even reading the whopping three paragraph article.  And of that percentage, how many (if any) actually did any research on Seasteading.  From this article and the comments, one would think that this is some new idea, and that libertarianism had something to do with billionaires running amok raping and pillaging the poor abused workers.  

    Grow up, Peter Pan.  Have some idea of what you are dismissing before you embark on your pathetic intellectual masturbation.

    As for all of the airhead questions of how this could work, and Bioshock references to disastrous outcomes; it may come as a shock, but these same questions occurred to the people trying to set it all up.  And most have been answered quite well.

    I thought Disinfo was full of skeptics, not disdainful snobs.  Poor showing.

  • Argosyjones

    Put the libertarians on Alcatraz.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be all for doing such a move.  I might even make a mini-island, have a lot of ideas how.

    But I politely reject the “Libertine”…  Well excuse me, “Libertarian” thing…  IMO, it’s a dumb, half-thought out policy that simply doesn’t work but is pumped up by corporate elites in the “Western” world since it helps them bleed welfare money while still taking (in complete hypocrisy, it’s for us, not them) corporate welfare themselves.

    What I’d make would be a floating building that’d be a huge frame that others could build upon until it became a re-birth of “The Walled City of Kowloon” surrounded by smaller ’steads and boats and re-commissioned ships.   I’d make it largely profitable from outside by making more or less what’s illegal about everywhere else legal there. I’d like to re-create Burroughs’s “Interzone” essentially. 

    But such a place doesn’t need a business ruler, it needs a begnin dictator who indeed profits from the $ tourists and pirates spend on drugs and hookers but is essentially “A river to his people”.  A King, even the “Pirate king of the pervert sh-t bucket floating on the sea” needs to think long term, and his people are essentially his body.  A businessman thinks for himself and thinks long term and everything is a “Resource” to be used, exploited, discarded for that purpose.  Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t give a F— what people believed or for the most part did.  If they wanted to deny the guy that they hired in their new venture the promotion because a “Friend from my back home Church of Moron wants to be here…besides you are a dink or whatever they call you…” fine, but there’d be NO law to avenge them if he shot him for it.  Libertarians really start to run like a bunny at a fursuit lifestyler convention when their own “Anarcho Capitalism” becomes something they might face the sh– end of.

    Mind you, it’s going to be build-able in a narrow time frame.  20 years and IMO nobody will even notice, but there’d be no flood of tourists to give the $ needed to expand and entrench.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bocacha-Gonzalez/895180410 Bocacha Gonzalez

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bocacha-Gonzalez/895180410 Bocacha Gonzalez

    I will be pleased on work at Libertarian Islands

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bocacha-Gonzalez/895180410 Bocacha Gonzalez

    I will be pleased on work at Libertarian Islands

  • Anonymous

    Good. Then they’ll all be in one place when it’s time to take them out. Saves munitions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.p.mitu Dan Phillip Mitu

    Sounds like Rapture! And we all know what happened there. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Wright/100000611481782 Michael Wright

    I am Andrew Ryan, and I’m here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? ‘No!’ says the man in Washington, ‘It belongs to the poor.’ ‘No!’ says the man in the Vatican, ‘It belongs to God.’ ‘No!’ says the man in Moscow, ‘It belongs to everyone.’ I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well… Just do look out for the gibbering monstrosities…