Charles Key: Yes, that they had actually cased it out, and gone to Oklahoma City and cased that specific building out.

Disinformation: The fact that people saw bomb squads at the Murrah Building a few hours before the bombing would seem to indicate that somebody knew something was going on.

Charles Key: Yes, that's another good proof. Then you have, I mean there is this long list. The Oklahoma City Fire Department was alerted by the FBI ahead of time to be in a special state of alert. Harvey Weathers, the assistant chief, told that to USA Today on the day of the bombing. You also have this judge, federal judge Wayne Alley, who still sits here in Oklahoma City, who gave an interview to his hometown newspaper, The Portland Oregonian.

Disinformation: In that interview Judge Alley said, "I was warned (of the bombing) by people who ought to know."

Charles Key: Yes. And there's other reasons to believe the FBI and other government officials had prior knowledge. Some of this information, Stephen Jones, McVeigh's lawyer, tried to get introduced into the trial, and he couldn't. Judge Matsch wouldn't allow it, like he disallowed so much important information . . . But, you know, after the bombing the ATF Director admitted that the ATF was "very concerned and tried to be more observant" about the specific date of April 19. If the anti-government groups were going to do something, it was feared they would do it on April 19 because that was the anniversary of Waco. And the ATF agents weren't in the building when it was bombed. We have people who told us that ATF agents said they were told the morning of the bombing to not go in that day. Now if someone told the ATF to stay out that day because--as it might seem--they feared something would happen, then why weren't the rest of the people in the building told to stay away?

Disinformation: Many survivors of the bombing stated that they felt the building shaking--for a good long time--before another explosion ripped out the front windows. That would certainly support the theory that more than one bomb caused the destruction.

Charles Key: Yes, many people feel that's very important information. All of the reports of people that were survivors of the bombing--people who were in the building--they talked about having enough time to discuss the shaking and the trembling of the building. Then having enough time to get under their desks. A lot of the survivors feel if they hadn't gotten under their desks then they would have been killed. Then once they were under their desks another explosion ripped out the windows, ripped out the front of the building. So these people are convinced that one bomb caused the building to start shaking, and then another bomb ripped off the front of the building. At least two bombs.

Disinformation: Seismographic equipment in two locations in and near Oklahoma City recorded the explosions. Dr. Raymon Brown, a highly respected geo-physicist from the Oklahoma Geophysical Society has stated that the most logical explanation of this seismographic information is that there was more than one bomb. Other experts have agreed with him.

Charles Key: Yes. Absolutely. We include all that information in our report. The seismographic graphs indicated at least two events, two explosions.

Disinformation: After the bombing, while the rescue attempts were going on, the Oklahoma TV News stations were reporting that the police and ATF officials were saying that there were more undetonated bombs found in the building. The TV newsmen kept reporting this for hours. Police logs confirmed undetonated bombs were found, and so did FEMA reports. Even Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating, on the morning of the bombing, said, "The reports I have is that one device was deactivated, and apparently, there's another device." But since then the government has claimed that all these reports and sightings of other bombs were wrong. That there was only the one McVeigh truck bomb. Does that make sense? Do you believe that?

Charles Key: Yes, the information is just very strong, and to me it's too strong to be able to try to discount it. We have affidavits in our report from paramedics and other rescuers at the scene who say they heard law enforcement people stating there were other bombs found in the building. And then you had bomb experts who had time to drive to a TV station, and sit there, and talk about the un-detonated bombs they had, bombs that were found in the building. You know, it's just too much competent information that can't be reasoned away as mistakes.

Disinformation: In that same TV interview, Governor Keating, who is an ex-FBI agent, said, ". . . obviously, whatever did the damage to the Murrah Building was a tremendous, very sophisticated explosive device." But explosives experts have made it clear that an ANFO bomb is an extremely rudimentary bomb. If someone blew up the building by placing charges on different columns inside the buildings, then that would take a sophisticated knowledge of explosives, right?

Charles Key: Yes. Authorities have said that an ANFO bomb is a very simple, crude bomb.

Disinformation: What might be the most intriguing information you put out in your Final Report is that the most preeminent experts on explosives--people like Sam Cohen and General Partin--have said an ANFO truck bomb could not have possibly done the damage to the Murrah Building. You've said that the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee tried very hard to find an expert or authority who would say that an ANFO bomb could have done the damage, but you weren't able to, right?

Charles Key: That's true. Yes. We couldn't find anybody who would put their name, put their opinion in writing, that an ANFO truck bomb could have done this. If somebody wants to claim that it could have been done, then they need to put in writing, show how it could work, and give examples of that. And nobody I know of has been able to do that. Not even the witnesses the government used in the trial could do it. They didn't do it.

Disinformation: These experts have even entertained the notion that a larger bomb could have been in the truck, but they discount that. General Partin said, "I don't care what kind of bomb, or what size bomb you had in the truck. You wouldn't have gotten the type of damage you had there."